Comments on: The PAD steps up the agitprop and closes Suvarnabhumi Airport http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/ Politics, Economy, Insurgency : Crisis Times in Thailand Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:23:24 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Bedwyr http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5268 Bedwyr Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:34:12 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5268 Of course he was challenging HMK, he still wants to be the 1st President of Thailand when HMK is no more. That is why this shit is so dangerous; the stakes are very high. Anyone thinks that Thaksin as first el presidente would not purge the shit out of the Bangkok elite is just naive. However, the real wuestion is this: forget the Bangkok elite (who have had their snouts n the trough for way too long anyway. Would Thaksin benefit the majority of Thais? Same as Ferdinand Marcos did. The strategy is effective, which is why PAD and their sponsor is so keen to have an appointed government. Can;t let the poor have a say, nonono, they are just so... *poor*. Bedwyr Of course he was challenging HMK, he still wants to be the 1st President of Thailand when HMK is no more. That is why this shit is so dangerous; the stakes are very high. Anyone thinks that Thaksin as first el presidente would not purge the shit out of the Bangkok elite is just naive.

However, the real wuestion is this: forget the Bangkok elite (who have had their snouts n the trough for way too long anyway. Would Thaksin benefit the majority of Thais? Same as Ferdinand Marcos did. The strategy is effective, which is why PAD and their sponsor is so keen to have an appointed government. Can;t let the poor have a say, nonono, they are just so… *poor*.

Bedwyr

]]> By: ray http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5236 ray Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:20:43 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5236 chinesethai , i fully agree with yr last post. thaksin was challenging hmk. it was royal pardon or else (power of red group)! i live in samui and my friend from udonthani (who also lives in samui) tells me that that people from isaan really love thaksin. why? because he gave them money. plain and simple! when the region is in trouble he actually distributed money. its our tax baht ( i know) but thaksin made the bahts available to them. thaksin has been challenging hmk since the beginning of his second term. chakaphob/veera have been pushing the enveope ever since. chakaphob even stated ( in press conf. with foreign reporters) that he would like to see war of people. translation people for hmk vs people for republic of thailand. most of thaksin cronies were former communists and have always had a grudge agains privy council prem. this thing is far from over. chinesethai , i fully agree with yr last post. thaksin was challenging hmk. it was royal pardon or else (power of red group)! i live in samui and my friend from udonthani (who also lives in samui) tells me that that people from isaan really love thaksin. why? because he gave them money. plain and simple! when the region is in trouble he actually distributed money. its our tax baht ( i know) but thaksin made the bahts available to them. thaksin has been challenging hmk since the beginning of his second term. chakaphob/veera have been pushing the enveope ever since. chakaphob even stated ( in press conf. with foreign reporters) that he would like to see war of people. translation people for hmk vs people for republic of thailand. most of thaksin cronies were former communists and have always had a grudge agains privy council prem. this thing is far from over.

]]> By: chinesethai http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5231 chinesethai Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:24:14 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5231 Wrongfred, First, I need to reintroduce myself that I am not royalist but, like many others, I see it through that Thaksin is the clear and present danger to the country now. Thaksin is very instrumental when he conveys each message. Take his most recent phone-in at the Rajamangkala Stadium as an example. On the surface, he sounded very loyal to the Monarch as he asked for a royal pardon. But if listened carefully and his behaviours put into perspective, he was challenging HMK. Unfortunately, not all PPP voters would be capable to see the point. I myself need quite a substantial amount of time trying to understand some of the frauds Thaksin committed because they are complicated and involve technical aspects. Almost like a rocket science. This guy is freaking genious but in evil way. Wrongfred,

First, I need to reintroduce myself that I am not royalist but, like many others, I see it through that Thaksin is the clear and present danger to the country now.

Thaksin is very instrumental when he conveys each message. Take his most recent phone-in at the Rajamangkala Stadium as an example. On the surface, he sounded very loyal to the Monarch as he asked for a royal pardon. But if listened carefully and his behaviours put into perspective, he was challenging HMK. Unfortunately, not all PPP voters would be capable to see the point. I myself need quite a substantial amount of time trying to understand some of the frauds Thaksin committed because they are complicated and involve technical aspects. Almost like a rocket science. This guy is freaking genious but in evil way.

]]> By: Wrongfred http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5228 Wrongfred Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:33:16 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5228 Hi Chinesethai! I have heard many times that the core members of the Thaksin camp do not respect the royal family and are working to sideline the monarchy. Unfortunately most of the PPP voters do not seem to understand this. Hi Chinesethai! I have heard many times that the core members of the Thaksin camp do not respect the royal family and are working to sideline the monarchy. Unfortunately most of the PPP voters do not seem to understand this.

]]> By: Wrongfred http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5227 Wrongfred Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:22:56 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5227 Well, Bedwyr could you perhaps give us a hint who could be behind the PAD. There are rumors that these are very influential people who have been cornered by Thaksin. I personally know a person who is a member of one of Thailand's richest family and they hate him like hell. Well, Bedwyr could you perhaps give us a hint who could be behind the PAD. There are rumors that these are very influential people who have been cornered by Thaksin. I personally know a person who is a member of one of Thailand’s richest family and they hate him like hell.

]]> By: ThaiCrisis http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5226 ThaiCrisis Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:00:12 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5226 -Dooda : I think the situation is a big "rumors producing machine"... So we shall remain cautious. My belief : the gvt has to do something. So something is going to happen. It's one thing to appear smart and to use the "pillow tactic", it's another thing to appear totally weak by doing nothing at all. The border between those 2 points is very thin... They are walking on eggs, sure, but they can let the PAD occupies, a la Government House style, Suvarnabhumi Airport... -Dooda : I think the situation is a big “rumors producing machine”… So we shall remain cautious.

My belief : the gvt has to do something. So something is going to happen.

It’s one thing to appear smart and to use the “pillow tactic”, it’s another thing to appear totally weak by doing nothing at all.

The border between those 2 points is very thin…

They are walking on eggs, sure, but they can let the PAD occupies, a la Government House style, Suvarnabhumi Airport…

]]> By: ThaiCrisis http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5225 ThaiCrisis Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:56:21 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5225 ->CT : any link should appear normally. try with http://www.somewhere.com ->CT : any link should appear normally.
try with http://www.somewhere.com

]]> By: dooda http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5224 dooda Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:55:45 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5224 i been told that at 18.00 hrs a state of emergency will be declared but i don't know whether that is just rumor or not, let's see. i been told that at 18.00 hrs a state of emergency will be declared but i don’t know whether that is just rumor or not, let’s see.

]]> By: Bedwyr http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5223 Bedwyr Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:50:38 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5223 As I understand it the airports and Chiang Mai and Pattaya are also closed. perhaps Pukhet as well? Bedwyr As I understand it the airports and Chiang Mai and Pattaya are also closed. perhaps Pukhet as well?

Bedwyr

]]> By: Bedwyr http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2008/11/25/the-pad-steps-up-the-agitprop-and-closes-suvarnabhumi-airport/#comment-5222 Bedwyr Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:47:18 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=3008#comment-5222 Wrongrfed, Perhaps it would be useful to ask who is really behind PAD. Pulling the strings. The unseen hand. Once this is understood, the real nature of Thai politics becomes clear. Bedwyr Wrongrfed,

Perhaps it would be useful to ask who is really behind PAD. Pulling the strings.
The unseen hand.

Once this is understood, the real nature of Thai politics becomes clear.

Bedwyr

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