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		<title>By: RockderktheGreat</title>
		<link>http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/compulsory-licences-abhisit-continues-the-little-dirty-blackmail/#comment-7148</link>
		<dc:creator>RockderktheGreat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To leave open a legal option for nations to decide for themselves which patents they&#039;ll respect, or ignore, seems to me folly from the start, given the moral calibre of many governments around this wonderful world. But we&#039;re talking Thailand here, the perennial &#039;developing nation&#039; controlled by a super-rich elite who have no intention of ever allowing the country to join the ranks of the first world, who will not educate but their own kin (overseas) and who drool with envy at the level of control their mentors in the Myanmar enjoy over their own enslaved and downtrodden poor. These guys are the enlightened ones to the average Somchai. They even herd the people into groups known as &#039;The Assembly of the Poor&#039; and the &#039;Alliance of fucking Slum Dwellers&#039; - not sure about that second one there. But I digress. Bob Dylan got it right when he said &#039;Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you ___________&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To leave open a legal option for nations to decide for themselves which patents they&#8217;ll respect, or ignore, seems to me folly from the start, given the moral calibre of many governments around this wonderful world. But we&#8217;re talking Thailand here, the perennial &#8216;developing nation&#8217; controlled by a super-rich elite who have no intention of ever allowing the country to join the ranks of the first world, who will not educate but their own kin (overseas) and who drool with envy at the level of control their mentors in the Myanmar enjoy over their own enslaved and downtrodden poor. These guys are the enlightened ones to the average Somchai. They even herd the people into groups known as &#8216;The Assembly of the Poor&#8217; and the &#8216;Alliance of fucking Slum Dwellers&#8217; &#8211; not sure about that second one there. But I digress. Bob Dylan got it right when he said &#8216;Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you ___________&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: lek</title>
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		<dc:creator>lek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know if the &quot;savings&quot; from stealing from the drug companies is getting passed on through to the Thai people or if the &quot;savings&quot; are being pocketed by the rich Thais who are behind the Compulsary licenses. My guess is that the savings are being pocketed. These rich Thai always babble on and on about doing this or that for the &quot;Thai People.&quot; but THE &quot;Thai people&quot; always means THEM. The will shamelessly steal from anyone at any cost to the own nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know if the &#8220;savings&#8221; from stealing from the drug companies is getting passed on through to the Thai people or if the &#8220;savings&#8221; are being pocketed by the rich Thais who are behind the Compulsary licenses. My guess is that the savings are being pocketed. These rich Thai always babble on and on about doing this or that for the &#8220;Thai People.&#8221; but THE &#8220;Thai people&#8221; always means THEM. The will shamelessly steal from anyone at any cost to the own nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethic and morality prevails on &quot;liaglity&quot;?

That is an interesting value giwven to the law and its value, very american (war on iraq, meddling in Afirca, interventionism in SE Asia, all in the name of morality I guess?)

What about the US morality then when it uses the same agreement to issues compulsory licences for Tamiflu, the Balckberry, part of F16 Jet Fighters and auto part?


The Thai General started the CL policy and they also started teh 100% condom programme who saved thailand from a disaster 17 years ago.

I prefer to be a &quot;useful idiot&quot; who save life than a self-righteouss one who does nothing.

Always yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethic and morality prevails on &#8220;liaglity&#8221;?</p>
<p>That is an interesting value giwven to the law and its value, very american (war on iraq, meddling in Afirca, interventionism in SE Asia, all in the name of morality I guess?)</p>
<p>What about the US morality then when it uses the same agreement to issues compulsory licences for Tamiflu, the Balckberry, part of F16 Jet Fighters and auto part?</p>
<p>The Thai General started the CL policy and they also started teh 100% condom programme who saved thailand from a disaster 17 years ago.</p>
<p>I prefer to be a &#8220;useful idiot&#8221; who save life than a self-righteouss one who does nothing.</p>
<p>Always yours.</p>
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		<title>By: ThaiCrisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThaiCrisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, yeah Roger, I know the drill.
But sometimes ethics, morality prevail on &quot;legality&quot;.

Do not forget to protest the next time the thai military will buy swedish... jet fighters. Or make a coup.

What can I say more ? I don&#039;t want to insult you. But the expression &quot;useful idiots&quot; does apply, unfortunately.

Indirectly, you are supporting the thai generals... And you know what ? They are laughing, oh boy, they are laughing. 

It doesn&#039;t strike you that... the &lt;strong&gt;thai generals started the CL policy&lt;/strong&gt; ? A red herring to entertain the useful idiots, while they were doing their dirty job behind.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36382

Bravo. Congratulations. &lt;em&gt;They need you.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, yeah Roger, I know the drill.<br />
But sometimes ethics, morality prevail on &#8220;legality&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do not forget to protest the next time the thai military will buy swedish&#8230; jet fighters. Or make a coup.</p>
<p>What can I say more ? I don&#8217;t want to insult you. But the expression &#8220;useful idiots&#8221; does apply, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Indirectly, you are supporting the thai generals&#8230; And you know what ? They are laughing, oh boy, they are laughing. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t strike you that&#8230; the <strong>thai generals started the CL policy</strong> ? A red herring to entertain the useful idiots, while they were doing their dirty job behind.<br />
<a href="http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36382" rel="nofollow">http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36382</a></p>
<p>Bravo. Congratulations. <em>They need you.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when compying with an international treaty signed  by both parties is breaking the law???

You have writen at lenght against Thailand decision to issue CL, other have writen at lenght supporting it.

But utimately, the law is on Thailand side as even the US have accepted...

~r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when compying with an international treaty signed  by both parties is breaking the law???</p>
<p>You have writen at lenght against Thailand decision to issue CL, other have writen at lenght supporting it.</p>
<p>But utimately, the law is on Thailand side as even the US have accepted&#8230;</p>
<p>~r</p>
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		<title>By: fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A non-punishment treatment is a reward and encouragement unto itself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A non-punishment treatment is a reward and encouragement unto itself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bedwyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedwyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George and Hobby:

True enough from both. It sticks in my craw though, that they can bendy words all over the place and think they are being shrewd when they are only appearing shiftless and greasy.

Of course the world rips people off, of course big pharma is obnoxious, but the Thais seem to find a way to do it with maximum sleaze and minimum appearance of honesty.

It really galled me to hear Abhisit complaining that Thai IP rights were being stolen, and it really galls me to hear Anupong say there are no secret prisons. That kind of thing uttered with a straight face and the poor loves really believe that people believe them.

George had it bang on when he noted in another post: &#039;cognitive dissonance&#039;. Exactly.

I think cognitive dissonance can be immeasurably improved by a good kicking.

Bedwyr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George and Hobby:</p>
<p>True enough from both. It sticks in my craw though, that they can bendy words all over the place and think they are being shrewd when they are only appearing shiftless and greasy.</p>
<p>Of course the world rips people off, of course big pharma is obnoxious, but the Thais seem to find a way to do it with maximum sleaze and minimum appearance of honesty.</p>
<p>It really galled me to hear Abhisit complaining that Thai IP rights were being stolen, and it really galls me to hear Anupong say there are no secret prisons. That kind of thing uttered with a straight face and the poor loves really believe that people believe them.</p>
<p>George had it bang on when he noted in another post: &#8216;cognitive dissonance&#8217;. Exactly.</p>
<p>I think cognitive dissonance can be immeasurably improved by a good kicking.</p>
<p>Bedwyr.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his posturing Abhisit conveniently, as did hid predecessors, fails to mention the other areas in which Thailand has a poor record on piracy: cable and satellite broadcasting, garments and cd&#039;s/dvd&#039;s.

The Intellectual Property Department stated that American businesses feel that police and customs officers are more active in the suppression of pirated garments. I don&#039;t think this is true. Much has been removed from the streets in tourist areas, but business is very strong in offices and commercial centers.

I would say the standard of pirated cd&#039;s and dvd&#039;s, for example, has improved dramatically in recent years. Masters are always available before general release in public cinemas. This is a huge business for the police, so it is not in their interest to tackle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his posturing Abhisit conveniently, as did hid predecessors, fails to mention the other areas in which Thailand has a poor record on piracy: cable and satellite broadcasting, garments and cd&#8217;s/dvd&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The Intellectual Property Department stated that American businesses feel that police and customs officers are more active in the suppression of pirated garments. I don&#8217;t think this is true. Much has been removed from the streets in tourist areas, but business is very strong in offices and commercial centers.</p>
<p>I would say the standard of pirated cd&#8217;s and dvd&#8217;s, for example, has improved dramatically in recent years. Masters are always available before general release in public cinemas. This is a huge business for the police, so it is not in their interest to tackle it.</p>
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		<title>By: hobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the &lt;i&gt;stealing&lt;/i&gt; goes &lt;b&gt;both&lt;/b&gt; ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the <i>stealing</i> goes <b>both</b> ways.</p>
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		<title>By: George P Tuckeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>George P Tuckeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bewyre,

In the nineteenth century, American companies, with tacit approval from their government, and the active assistance of laws passed (or not passed) by Congress ripped off European ideas without so much as a &#039;thank you&#039;.

Japanese Companies in the fifties ripped off American ideas while the government looked the other way.

In the Sixties and seventies, Korean and HK companies ripped of Japanese ideas.

Then the Taiwanese ripped off the Koreans. Now the Chinese rip off everyone&#039;s ideas.

Soon the Cambodians will be ripping off Chinese Ideas, and so it goes.

Currently, American drug companies are ripping off ideas from Asian traditional medicine, patenting them and selling the same back to Asia.

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s right. Just saying that when it comes to mendacity, the Thais are in good company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bewyre,</p>
<p>In the nineteenth century, American companies, with tacit approval from their government, and the active assistance of laws passed (or not passed) by Congress ripped off European ideas without so much as a &#8216;thank you&#8217;.</p>
<p>Japanese Companies in the fifties ripped off American ideas while the government looked the other way.</p>
<p>In the Sixties and seventies, Korean and HK companies ripped of Japanese ideas.</p>
<p>Then the Taiwanese ripped off the Koreans. Now the Chinese rip off everyone&#8217;s ideas.</p>
<p>Soon the Cambodians will be ripping off Chinese Ideas, and so it goes.</p>
<p>Currently, American drug companies are ripping off ideas from Asian traditional medicine, patenting them and selling the same back to Asia.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s right. Just saying that when it comes to mendacity, the Thais are in good company.</p>
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