Comments on: Chart, credit : the party is over, growth is decelerating http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/ Politics, Economy, Insurgency : Crisis Times in Thailand Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:23:24 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Affacturage http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9324 Affacturage Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:46:53 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9324 It is suggested that the recession could continue for years - like the Great Depression or "the lost decade" in Japan - because the remedies being used (e.g., near zero interest rates, massive deficit spending, and bail outs for collapsing firms) will perpetuate the underlying problems instead of solving them. Time will tell, but I am inclined to agree that there could be another dip in 2010. It is suggested that the recession could continue for years – like the Great Depression or “the lost decade” in Japan – because the remedies being used (e.g., near zero interest rates, massive deficit spending, and bail outs for collapsing firms) will perpetuate the underlying problems instead of solving them. Time will tell, but I am inclined to agree that there could be another dip in 2010.

]]> By: Lothar http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9196 Lothar Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:51:52 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9196 It's the same fuck everywhere when they can't find any optimistic number the media is going back to "confidence" indicators. And even if it is bottomed out the effects on real life will worsen for a long time as too many are just trying to stay in business by using up there savings and credit lines. This is a very long L shape recession, with a flat period of many years. And if we see a Peak-Oil effect it can get more then just worse. Thats why i decided to move back to germany and survive the crisis there - much better opportunities then staying in THailand right now. It’s the same fuck everywhere when they can’t find any optimistic number the media is going back to “confidence” indicators.

And even if it is bottomed out the effects on real life will worsen for a long time as too many are just trying to stay in business by using up there savings and credit lines.

This is a very long L shape recession, with a flat period of many years. And if we see a Peak-Oil effect it can get more then just worse.

Thats why i decided to move back to germany and survive the crisis there – much better opportunities then staying in THailand right now.

]]> By: antipadshist http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9192 antipadshist Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:27:31 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9192 here is a message from BOT : BOT says economy has bottomed out http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/07/01/business/business_30106426.php "The economy has already bottomed out and <b>business confidence is back on track</b> despite lingering risk factors, the Bank of Thailand said yesterday." green shoots again ? ;) here is a message from BOT :

BOT says economy has bottomed out
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/07/01/business/business_30106426.php

“The economy has already bottomed out and business confidence is back on track despite lingering risk factors, the Bank of Thailand said yesterday.”

green shoots again ? ;)

]]> By: james http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9189 james Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:31:37 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9189 same thing is happening in China and U.S.. same thing is happening in China and U.S..

]]> By: ThaiCrisis http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9187 ThaiCrisis Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:17 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9187 No, nothing perverse. Just a typo in the title of the first chart : it's from "january <strong>2007</strong>" not "january 2006" like I wrote. And why the time line is different from the 2 others ? Because it has a year on year % of change calculation. My point : I've got the data from january 2006. Therefore, for a y-o-y % of change, I can only start the chart from january 2007. No, nothing perverse. Just a typo in the title of the first chart : it’s from “january 2007” not “january 2006″ like I wrote.

And why the time line is different from the 2 others ? Because it has a year on year % of change calculation.

My point : I’ve got the data from january 2006. Therefore, for a y-o-y % of change, I can only start the chart from january 2007.

]]> By: jeplang http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/chart-credit-the-party-is-over-growth-is-decelerating/#comment-9185 jeplang Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:15:48 +0000 http://thaicrisis.wordpress.com/?p=6367#comment-9185 TC,just to nitpick: chart 1 does not cover the period jan 2006 to april 2009,as the other charts do. in chart 2 the sums[government +business+ individuals ]don't add up.Anything missing? What would the graphs be like if you covered a much longer time span? Is it any wonder it is called a dismal science? TC,just to nitpick:
chart 1 does not cover the period jan 2006 to april 2009,as the other charts do.
in chart 2 the sums[government +business+ individuals ]don’t add up.Anything missing?

What would the graphs be like if you covered a much longer time span?

Is it any wonder it is called a dismal science?

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