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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by ThaiCrisis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desert of scarcity.
Yep.</description>
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Yep.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by antipadshist</title>
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		<dc:creator>antipadshist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC  and others

may I  invite your attention to 2 curious  pieces of local Thai news (heard / watched on TV, as I recall Nation channel)

1) &lt;b&gt;Gold Hoarding&lt;/b&gt; by traders

lately there has been a lot of talks on gold. so, in one of programs there was an interview taken from gold traders (well, not a big secret that practically all of them are ethnic chinese).  and  first several of them said they are  going to close their shops  due to higher and higher risk of being robbed.   then net day  there was another program where it was mentioned that  there are about 6000 gold shops (outlets?) in Thailand, and  apparently many of them are gonna be shut down - only some 1000 shops will remain.  ;)

[my comment:  these guys are SLY and shrewd !  they DO KNOW what&#039;s coming - HUGE sky-rocketing gold price hike, and thus they simply have ALREADY decided  NOT to sell their gold now, but wait till a better days - aka BETTER PRICES !  :)]

2) &lt;b&gt;profits from Debts&lt;/b&gt;

gov. has started a campaign, highly advertised on TV,  inviting people  to sign up for the new scheme (or rather a scam?) which is allegedly aimed to &quot;help&quot; them to pay off their debts to all the loan sharks ! this scheme is ONLY for those who borrowed &quot;outside the system&quot; - in other words,  not from all those official &quot;legal&quot; companies (as Big Brother, easy Money, Citi etc etc) - but from private lenders (aka &quot;loan sharks&quot;)  - mostly because  huge number of people are not considered eligible  for taking official loans, so they borrow from those who eagerly overlooks all such legal formalities.

wow!  what a brilliant idea, huh? taking into consideration that A LARGE  number of people are ALREADY in debts (and many are being killed for that regularly) and many more continue to borrow.

so, in other words,  gov.  has  figured it out - that it is VERY PROFITABLE  to tap into that GIGANTIC &quot;underwater part&quot; of the iceberg - all the unofficial/ illegal  loans ! why, buying of DEBTS  has ALWAYS been  a &quot;daily bread&quot; for banksters, as that saying goes (now it is my favorite):  &quot;Money is Debt; Debt is Money&quot;. 

imagine - even MINIMAL (and that&#039;s what they use to persuade the naive public - low percentage) interest percentage  from those &quot;helping loans&quot;  would be a VERY yummy morsel for all those banks !

by the way, the rumour is - that the present Abhisit&#039;s government didn&#039;t actually &quot;discover the America&quot;  by inventing this whole idea - but themselves merely &quot;borrowed&quot; it from ... old buddy Thaksin !  :D  (who reportedly has been trying to adopt this plan several years ago)


oh, and perhaps worth to add another thing, a real fact told to me by one friend, who was told by his parents upcountry :  RICE  prices are not simply rising, but apparently  brokers/ traders/ middlemen  now are  hoarding it.  people came to buy rice and were told by  trader :  &quot;I am not going to sell now, because price will rise very soon - so, come back in Jan-Feb and  you can buy then for those NEW prices&quot;.

cool, huh ?  ;)  

so, the conclusion is:  those who hold their finger on the pulse of REAL business (as gold  and food traders and all sorts of other middlemen and parasitic elements)   -they ALREADY DO KNOW  that pretty soon something BIG is coming. that is why they employ good old trick of all the speculators: they HOLD  (= hoard)  their goods, waiting for SURE much higher profits !

&quot;welcome to the desert of REAL&quot; (Morpheus to Neo)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TC  and others</p>
<p>may I  invite your attention to 2 curious  pieces of local Thai news (heard / watched on TV, as I recall Nation channel)</p>
<p>1) <b>Gold Hoarding</b> by traders</p>
<p>lately there has been a lot of talks on gold. so, in one of programs there was an interview taken from gold traders (well, not a big secret that practically all of them are ethnic chinese).  and  first several of them said they are  going to close their shops  due to higher and higher risk of being robbed.   then net day  there was another program where it was mentioned that  there are about 6000 gold shops (outlets?) in Thailand, and  apparently many of them are gonna be shut down &#8211; only some 1000 shops will remain.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[my comment:  these guys are SLY and shrewd !  they DO KNOW what's coming - HUGE sky-rocketing gold price hike, and thus they simply have ALREADY decided  NOT to sell their gold now, but wait till a better days - aka BETTER PRICES !  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]</p>
<p>2) <b>profits from Debts</b></p>
<p>gov. has started a campaign, highly advertised on TV,  inviting people  to sign up for the new scheme (or rather a scam?) which is allegedly aimed to &#8220;help&#8221; them to pay off their debts to all the loan sharks ! this scheme is ONLY for those who borrowed &#8220;outside the system&#8221; &#8211; in other words,  not from all those official &#8220;legal&#8221; companies (as Big Brother, easy Money, Citi etc etc) &#8211; but from private lenders (aka &#8220;loan sharks&#8221;)  &#8211; mostly because  huge number of people are not considered eligible  for taking official loans, so they borrow from those who eagerly overlooks all such legal formalities.</p>
<p>wow!  what a brilliant idea, huh? taking into consideration that A LARGE  number of people are ALREADY in debts (and many are being killed for that regularly) and many more continue to borrow.</p>
<p>so, in other words,  gov.  has  figured it out &#8211; that it is VERY PROFITABLE  to tap into that GIGANTIC &#8220;underwater part&#8221; of the iceberg &#8211; all the unofficial/ illegal  loans ! why, buying of DEBTS  has ALWAYS been  a &#8220;daily bread&#8221; for banksters, as that saying goes (now it is my favorite):  &#8220;Money is Debt; Debt is Money&#8221;. </p>
<p>imagine &#8211; even MINIMAL (and that&#8217;s what they use to persuade the naive public &#8211; low percentage) interest percentage  from those &#8220;helping loans&#8221;  would be a VERY yummy morsel for all those banks !</p>
<p>by the way, the rumour is &#8211; that the present Abhisit&#8217;s government didn&#8217;t actually &#8220;discover the America&#8221;  by inventing this whole idea &#8211; but themselves merely &#8220;borrowed&#8221; it from &#8230; old buddy Thaksin !  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   (who reportedly has been trying to adopt this plan several years ago)</p>
<p>oh, and perhaps worth to add another thing, a real fact told to me by one friend, who was told by his parents upcountry :  RICE  prices are not simply rising, but apparently  brokers/ traders/ middlemen  now are  hoarding it.  people came to buy rice and were told by  trader :  &#8220;I am not going to sell now, because price will rise very soon &#8211; so, come back in Jan-Feb and  you can buy then for those NEW prices&#8221;.</p>
<p>cool, huh ?  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>so, the conclusion is:  those who hold their finger on the pulse of REAL business (as gold  and food traders and all sorts of other middlemen and parasitic elements)   -they ALREADY DO KNOW  that pretty soon something BIG is coming. that is why they employ good old trick of all the speculators: they HOLD  (= hoard)  their goods, waiting for SURE much higher profits !</p>
<p>&#8220;welcome to the desert of REAL&#8221; (Morpheus to Neo)</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by whoopla</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC maybe you should make an allegorical chart that measures the rise and fall of the Thai face whenever they remove their heads from the ostrich hole?</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by Pricilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pricilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed TC politics is the source of most of the evil that affects mankind (except the star performer religion of course). Whether it be maniac dictators or the democratically elected with favors to repay, it is always about snouts in the public trough and Mr Common Man that eventually foots the bill for these parasites.

Last time I was emotional about politics was 30 years ago, when it dawned on me that it really didn&#039;t matter and I haven&#039;t voted since.

Politicians only do what short term action is needed to get re-elected without any care for the future, as lucrative board positions and public funded benefits await them. Unfortunately many of the voting public only vote for what favors will be tossed their way, they are mostly incapable of objective thought and rely on the media to provide their opinions for them. 

Hence we see inane nonsense like &quot;Change we can believe in&quot; actually being swallowed by the ignorant masses as they cry in joy as their candidate takes his turn to disappoint and sink the country into further ruin as the elite profit. Even sadder perhaps are the Thai forums where farangs fight about which useless corrupt government here is better. Oops, sorry for the rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed TC politics is the source of most of the evil that affects mankind (except the star performer religion of course). Whether it be maniac dictators or the democratically elected with favors to repay, it is always about snouts in the public trough and Mr Common Man that eventually foots the bill for these parasites.</p>
<p>Last time I was emotional about politics was 30 years ago, when it dawned on me that it really didn&#8217;t matter and I haven&#8217;t voted since.</p>
<p>Politicians only do what short term action is needed to get re-elected without any care for the future, as lucrative board positions and public funded benefits await them. Unfortunately many of the voting public only vote for what favors will be tossed their way, they are mostly incapable of objective thought and rely on the media to provide their opinions for them. </p>
<p>Hence we see inane nonsense like &#8220;Change we can believe in&#8221; actually being swallowed by the ignorant masses as they cry in joy as their candidate takes his turn to disappoint and sink the country into further ruin as the elite profit. Even sadder perhaps are the Thai forums where farangs fight about which useless corrupt government here is better. Oops, sorry for the rant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by ThaiCrisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThaiCrisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget Bob : &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iwise.com/4e2Vz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;everything is politics&lt;/a&gt;. ;-)

You would agree that the current astonishing mess was and is highly political. Stupid, coward and blind politicians have created it.

People usually accuse bankers, traders, greed etc... But those are mere &lt;em&gt;symptoms&lt;/em&gt;.

We have to go to the source : and the source is without any doubt politics.

How do you want to have sound economic policies with people... like Korn and Abhisit (or Surayud, Samak, Somchai, Thaksin whatever) ?

And with Brown ? Bernanke ? Obama ? Sarkozy ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Bob : <a href="http://www.iwise.com/4e2Vz" rel="nofollow">everything is politics</a>. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You would agree that the current astonishing mess was and is highly political. Stupid, coward and blind politicians have created it.</p>
<p>People usually accuse bankers, traders, greed etc&#8230; But those are mere <em>symptoms</em>.</p>
<p>We have to go to the source : and the source is without any doubt politics.</p>
<p>How do you want to have sound economic policies with people&#8230; like Korn and Abhisit (or Surayud, Samak, Somchai, Thaksin whatever) ?</p>
<p>And with Brown ? Bernanke ? Obama ? Sarkozy ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad omens! Looks like 2010 will be a rough year for Asia.</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by Bewdyr</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it will be the domino effect. The first one last time was Thailand (whose incompetence triggered the crash but that hasn&#039;t taught anyone in Thailand it is better to shut up and be thought a fool than to say something and remove all doubt). This times is Vietnam.

I don&#039;t think 2010 is going to be a hugely happy year for Thailand and Thais, indeed, for the whole world; we can only hope that it is the middle and hi-so classes that get hurt the most.

Dubai is a worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it will be the domino effect. The first one last time was Thailand (whose incompetence triggered the crash but that hasn&#8217;t taught anyone in Thailand it is better to shut up and be thought a fool than to say something and remove all doubt). This times is Vietnam.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think 2010 is going to be a hugely happy year for Thailand and Thais, indeed, for the whole world; we can only hope that it is the middle and hi-so classes that get hurt the most.</p>
<p>Dubai is a worry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Beggar thy neighbor&#8221; : Vietnamese Dong devaluation affects Thailand by Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally a post about economics, with numbers and not just political blunders, I love it.
A technical question: How can Vietnam devaluate their currency AND at the same time raise interest rate?
I had the impression that most open currencies will strengthen with higher interest rate and fall with lover interest rate.

Life is sweet. Let’s have another drink....totally agree and you will find me at the beer garden in front of Central World Plaza for a X-mas beer...ahhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally a post about economics, with numbers and not just political blunders, I love it.<br />
A technical question: How can Vietnam devaluate their currency AND at the same time raise interest rate?<br />
I had the impression that most open currencies will strengthen with higher interest rate and fall with lover interest rate.</p>
<p>Life is sweet. Let’s have another drink&#8230;.totally agree and you will find me at the beer garden in front of Central World Plaza for a X-mas beer&#8230;ahhh.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ThaiCrisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orwell would think : &quot;give me another round (of whisky, single malt)&quot;.
;-)</description>
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		<dc:creator>fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Thais are too stupid to recognise a spade by any other name, let them.  They deserve another October crack-down, with mass killing...
May be this time, they would remember and might learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Thais are too stupid to recognise a spade by any other name, let them.  They deserve another October crack-down, with mass killing&#8230;<br />
May be this time, they would remember and might learn something.</p>
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