Samak : politician, policeman and judge as well in new lese-majeste case

Samak does know one thing well : how to shuffle the cards in order to create confusion. For that matter, he’s a good tactician.

-Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej Tuesday ordered police to take legal action against Daranee Charnchoengsilpakul, a member of the United Front of Democracy against Dictatorship, on lese majeste charge in relation to a speech she gave last week.

The person violated the laws with her words, which affected several institutions. I ordered police to take action against the person immediately,” Samak said. (Nation)

-South Bangkok District Court approved an arrest warrant against her and she was arrested by Chana Songkram police in Phaholyothin area Tuesday.

Questions :

-Since when is the job of the Prime Minister to order arrests, for such minor case ?

-what was the emergency ?

-and why Samak is focusing on someone who… fought against the Coup (other people are accused and/or charged with lese-majeste) ?

-why an arrest warrant was immediatly issued ?

-and why the woman was immediatly arrested ?

I think the answer is clear : in the middle of a full and massive nationalist hysteria due to the Preah Vihear temple crisis (and watch out… Cambodia has just asked an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council on this issue !)… Samak is walking on eggs.

He wants to show that, in a way, he’s more royalist than the royalists.

Even though the price to be paid is more confusion, and more public scrutinity about the lese-majeste law.

Many thai politicians do not understand one fundamental idea : the more they use and instrumentalize the lese-majeste law… the more they loose their credibility, and the more they weaken the “high institution“.

Eventually, everybody will accuse everybody of lese-majeste. The peak of non-sense is not far away.

Fasten your seatbelts… “Pol Lt-Col Banyong told the court Ms Daranee denied all the charges while police sought approval from the Criminal Court to take her into custody for 12 days without bail.

Pol Lt-Col Banyong said police opposed bail for Ms Daranee for her own safety as her offence was one that could result in violent attacks on her by members of the public.” (Bangkok Post)

It summarizes, unfortunatly, the country : In Thailand a murderer can get a bail… but a woman charged of lese-majeste… no.

It’s getting better. An arrest warrant against Sondhi, one of the PAD’s leaders and political ennemy of Miss Daranee, has been issued… because he… has apparently quoted her speech !

Read here.

Here are some translated quotes from the infamous speech.

10 Responses to “Samak : politician, policeman and judge as well in new lese-majeste case”

  1. 1 Bangkok Pundit 23 July 2008 at 6:21 am

    Thai Crisis: I wondered about Samak’s role too in this after seeing the breaking news alert yesterday, but watching him on TV last night, he says he was told by the police, via a report, that the person had broken the law so he ordered them to enforce the law. The initial story seemed to suggest it was instigated by Samak. The Post’s story today completely downplays the Samak angle. I am trying to find out what the person said before posting about it.

    You are correct to point out the royalist card aspect and I agree with your analysis. Samak is almost trying to paint himself as the defender of the monarchy after the attacks from PAD

  2. 2 ThaiCrisis 23 July 2008 at 8:29 am

    As you point out, it’s very difficult to follow the events… and to have a clear view of who says what when.

    I mean I remember the good old times of the… sovietology or kremlinology ! It was delicious at that times to try to decipher what was going on in USRR, who, how, what etc.

    But I have to say that the thailandology is probably beating all records !!!

    Even though Samak was “told by the police” (which apparently he said), still his actions were very fast (by any thai standards…).

    So Bangkok Post can surely downplay Samak’s role, but still, the bottom line is that this woman was sent prestissimo to jail (no bail !!!!).

    Things are going faster and faster, It’s unbelievable.

    And wait… the best is to come with the UN and the temple. The cambodian foreign minister fears “an “imminent state of war” !

    What a bunch of Dr Strangelove !

    I’m still wondering how some people can think that everything is normal, cool, sabai, that the crisis is over etc.

    I think I need some vacations… I’m tired to have the feeling to live in Wonderland, surrounded by rabbits under extremely powerfull drugs influences ! 😉

  3. 3 chinesethai 23 July 2008 at 9:03 am

    I have listened to the clip. Unlike the case of Jakrapob Penkair, this one exposes the real motive of these people for the very first time that Pro-Thaksin agenda of “total regime change” is no longer hidden. In the clip, she mentioned things like “the republic”, “Nepal”, “Field Marshal Por Pibulsongram”, and …… well….. In fact, a number of police officers were there at the scene but doing nothing.

    3 full days had passed until the army urged Samak and the police to act.

    Anyway, it is becoming clearer day-by-day somehow that “the War” is fast erupting. Informed people, a minority in the country, are very much concerned about the future of this country.

  4. 4 ThaiCrisis 23 July 2008 at 9:10 am

    At last ! Thanks for the info Chinesethai… I was looking for some infos about this famous speech.
    Do you have a website where this clip is available ?

  5. 5 chinesethai 23 July 2008 at 9:59 am

    Thaicrisis, how could I send you a personal message?

    More info: If you checked out some websites that claimed to be ‘left-wing’ ( 2-3 days ago, you would have found that the sentiment was mixed. Some people there said that it is too early or premature to reveal their “true” agenda at this time since Pro-Thaksin would be fast losing its lustre as many still uninformed Thais, especially the poor upcountry and in the city, had been lured to a false belief by continuous propaganda that Thaksin is not Anti-Royalist. Some supported waging an “all-out” war now! Some feared jail sentence and thus retreating from expressing any more comment.

    I am personally worried about the future of Thailand myself as to which way it is heading to. Thaicrisis, if it is to be in Thaksin’s claws, I had better choose to live under Communist China. Both are oppressive but at least the latter still does something good for their country.

  6. 6 ThaiCrisis 23 July 2008 at 10:21 am

    easy : cthai2 (@)

  7. 7 KV 23 July 2008 at 11:17 am

    Hoping to learn somehow, what she did say that made the lese majeste card to be pulled out. ThaiCrisis, now that you have possibly heard it, hope you can voice your opinion about it? Sadly you cannot even quote her, as todays events showed with quotation making you “guilty”. Really interested what makes Thais attack other Thais with this card. So, in case it is possible, maybe you could also email it to me the link I mean…


    (I believe you can see my addy on the reply information that is hidden)

  8. 8 ThaiCrisis 23 July 2008 at 11:27 am

    KV : As for the content of the infamous speech, I think Chinesethai gave us the core keywords : regime change, republic etc.

    It’s the total taboo.

    But since Sondhi is charged too, and since he is an important personality… the international press is going to take the ball… We will have the details. And this is very dangerous.

    As I wrote, the more they use and instrumentalize this stupid law, the more the damages against the “high institutions” could be important.

    The world is going to laugh !

    Sondhi is the ennemy of the woman who was charged first (a political activist, who fought against the Coup)… And by just quoting her, he’s charged too !

    This is not only madness, it’s just plain stupidity.

    There is just no more common sense in this country.

    Anyway, as soon as I can find some details, I will update the site.

  9. 9 15yearsprison 29 July 2008 at 12:07 pm

    What’s interesting for me is how quiet the Thai king is keeping on this issue.

    Wasn’t he meant to be against this law? He could easily end this problem by demanding that Da Torpedo be released and lese majeste law be abolished. He does after all, have political and moral power in Thailand.

    But instead, king Bhumibol chooses to stay silent once again, demonstrating that he fully supports and endorses lese majeste law.

    Oh, but I almost forgot! Da Torpedo hasn’t apologised to the king for her terrible “crime” yet. No doubt when she does, the king of Thailand will “pardon” her. King Bhumibol is such a “compassionate” man.


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Coup, Economic slowdown, Terror In the South... The situation is worsening in Thailand. Bumpy road like often before.

But this time, it's different.

The key to understand the present turmoil is the inevitable... succession of King Bhumibol.

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