Thaiwonderland : Thaksin will give up himself his diplomatic passport

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has decided to return his diplomatic passport to the Foreign Ministry to ease the pressure on his brother-in-law, Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, a source close to him said.

Mr Thaksin had already informed his brother-in-law of his decision, but has not set a date for the return of the passport
, according to the source.
(Bangkok Post)

It’s like that in Thaiwonderland… A vulgar bail jumper, the husband of a convicted woman (Pojaman, 3 years of jail for tax evasion) can decide, by himself, to give up his diplomatic passport.

Talk about a huge face saving exercise… 😉

And of course, the thai authorities won’t move.

Samak was unable to take the decision to cancel Thaksin’s diplomatic passport. So of course Somchai the new (alleged) Prime Minister, Thaksin’s brother-in-law, can’t do it neither… 😉

But the most ridiculous point of this story is that Thaksin just can’t keep his diplomatic passport… Because he applied for… political asylum !

I mean you can’t say on one hand that you are persecuted in Thailand and on the other hand you continue to enjoy a diplomatic passport from the same country, right ? !

Are you saying “common sense” ?

Well indeed, it’s a luxuary now in Thaiwonderland…

13 Responses to “Thaiwonderland : Thaksin will give up himself his diplomatic passport”


  1. 1 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 3:43 am

    Yes, the only thing of importance in Thais is face. Ego. Self-esteem.

    Suntaree Komin, in her otherwise pretty dire book
    “Psychology of the Thai People: Values and Behavioral Patterns” (National Institute of Development Administration (NIDA), Bangkok 1991, ISBN 974-85744-8-2, pp. 191-197) has this to say:

    The Thai are first and foremost ego oriented, characterized by the highest ego value of being Independent-being oneself (Pen tua khong tua eng), and a very high value of Self esteem. Closer inspection reveals that it is constantly ranked top priority, with the exception of farmers who ranked it relatively low (8th) among all Thai groups. Thai people have a very big ego, a deep sense of independence, pride and dignity. They cannot tolerate any violation of the “ego” self. Despite the cool and calm front, they can be easily provoked to strong emotional reactions, if the “self” or anybody close to the “self” line one’s father or mother, is insulted.

    Our esteemed former PM Chavalit gets a dishonourable mention in despatches.

    As already noted, this is a pretty dire piece of work, almost devoid of any objectivity in respect of her assessment of Thai psychology, but even she notices that Thais and there ego are joined at the hip. The ego is *THE* most important thing to Thais, despite them having almost bugger all to feel proud of themselves about.

    Bedwyr also notices in the Bangkok Post this morning is a piece about a corruption prosecution against Somchai. So much for honest John Somchai the judge eh?

    Round and around you go on this lunatic merry-go-round.

    Bedwyr

  2. 2 Clavin Lee 13 October 2008 at 3:45 am

    Sometime make me wonder if Thailand is only make up of a few thousand men and where this is going to lead to….

    Thaksin won the election and so he must have the majority vote and just because ten thousand men object, he must quit…Thailand is not made up of ten thousand people and if hundred thousand Thais object, so what…..what if Thaksin can come out with million of supporters, does that make him a better man. He has been elected so be it and let him rule and that’s Democracy….majority rule. Then, next PM become a victim and then another, just because he is related to Thaksin by marriage. Even blood brothers think and act differently….could He be given a chance and to prove you wrong.

    That’s my opinion and if this continue, I amd really sad for Thailand even I am not Thai, and Thais and I belong to the world’s family .

  3. 3 MSB 13 October 2008 at 5:41 am

    He is thought to have 2, possibly 3 other passports….

  4. 4 LPrao 13 October 2008 at 5:57 am

    Samak, then surely Somchai, both display themselves to be Thaksin puppets. Hence the loss of their credibility to millions of Thais who rejected, and continue to reject, Thaksin’s brand of mega-corruption and crony politics was kleptocracy disguised as democracy.

  5. 5 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 6:17 am

    This is from todays Nation:

    HM the Queen will preside over cremation of Angkana Radubpanya-avut who was killed when police dispersed anti-government protesters near the Parliament on October 7, Royal Household Bureau said Monday”.

    So much for ‘the institution’ being above politics… the sham is there for all to see. Bedwyr believes that we are watching the process of Thailand changing forever.

    Not before time.

    Bedwyr

  6. 6 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 6:22 am

    Clavin Lee. I agree. But you have to understand that the Bangkok elite, the arm operating the ventriloquists dummy, simply will not allow the poor to have an opinion or a say if their own position or wealth is threatened.

    Ultimatley, these 2 camps are entrenched and there is no common ground. It will inevitably lead to Thailand self-destructing. Bedwyr believes that in 20 years Thailand will be the poor relation in SE Asia as the strategic importance of Thailand to China becomes the final nail in the Thailand coffin. It would indeed be ironic if Laotians were to look down their nose and sneer at Thais.

    Bedwyr

  7. 7 chinesethai 13 October 2008 at 6:28 am

    Clavin Lee:

    As much as I have studied the concept of democracy in Canada and Taiwan, democracy does mean not just a majority rule in election but much more. It must come with a system called “check and balance”. Post-election participation of the informed people is also essential.

    Thaksin and cronies had twisted the meaning of democracy for years. And probably a large number of Thai people had misunderstood its concept since King Rama VII was toppled by a military coup called “People’s Clique”. The King demanded that the power he was going to give up not be handed over to any specific abusive group and clique, but be TRULY handed over to the people. His prediction holds true until today.

    3 years ago in Taiwan, tens of thousands of protesters marched against President Chen Shuibian (or A-Bian as most Chinese call him), who won 2 consecutive landslide elections, demanding him to step down immediately. A-Bian along with his family clans are now facing 10+ corruption and money laundering charges, and just few steps closer to jail.

    Taiwan is not made up of only those thousands of protesters either. So why must A-Bian be faced with corruption charges now?

    In Taiwan, people’s representatives in the Legislative Yuan are not merely called MPs or Legislators but ones who truly represent the mind&thought of the people or 民意代表. So elections in Taiwan are for real and democratic, not just a ritual for corrupt politicians and vested interest group proxies to grab power and tax money from the people like in Thailand.

  8. 8 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 8:39 am

    Thai Crisis.

    Have a look at the front page of the Bangkok Post today. Check the first picture – ‘King Taksin warriors’. Now I know this is a double-entendre, but even so, the mask seems to be slipping. Soon it will be out in the open and there will be a some serious shit. As Bedwyr predicted.

    It is the small things, not the big things that we should notice. In them lies the truth.

    Bedwyr

  9. 9 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 8:41 am

    Chinese Thai.

    Completely agree. very true, very informative and succinctly put.

    Bedwyr

  10. 10 chinesethai 13 October 2008 at 9:22 am

    Bedwyr:

    Your prediction of civil war or something similarly violent is also looking increasingly likely everyday.

    In this country, many critical events always go unreported. Especially in time of crisis, we have no other choices but to rely on alternative news sources, 6th sense, telltales or even rumours.

    Today in both Pro-Thaksin stronghold cities of Chiangmai and Udorn Thani and in some areas of Bangkok, leaflets are being distributed. The details inside are of course direct insult on the Monarchy and call for PAD leaders’ heads.

    With the army remaining undecided as you said, another round of bloody violence could possibly flare up within this or next week. But we still don’t know if it is going to be in what form.

    The decision to let loose Thaksin and Pojaman on bail is a big mistake (or intended mistake?).

  11. 11 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 10:35 am

    ChineseThai;

    The decision to release on bail must have been intentional, knowing they would flee, and was probably predicated on the belief that they would be less troublesome outside of the country than inside. The real question is who told the judges to let them flee, which was both entirely predictable and predicted by all commentators at the time. In other words, who is directing the judges? We all know. So who is directing that person, We all know that too.

    Bedwyr is a psychologist not a political science person, Therefore whatever insights come, they are insights into human behaviour rather than politics, even if they are delivered from lands far distant. It seems to him that Thailand is in for a seriously hard time, and the leaflets you mention are evidence that the mask slipping further (not seen them by the way).

    What is a bit troubling is the first lady’s obvious siding with the reactionary forces and the apparent emerging rchange of heart in respect of the institution. It will quickly become not taboo to talk openly about this and at that point we are probably only months away from a cataclysm. Thais know who pulls the strings as well as or better than Bedwyr does.

    One of the really interesting questions that Bedwyr has, is *why* the mask is now slipping. We must look north for the answer to that. Someone with an long wall is stirring the pot, probably with glee. We must watch what Chidchob the younger is doing. Dangerous game he is playing. IMHO.

    Bedwyr is an insufferable know-it-all and if he is right he will be quick to say ‘I told you so’. Lets all hope he is wrong.

    Bedwyr

  12. 12 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 10:44 am

    Here is a conundrum (though a little off-topic – apologies for this bad behaviour to Thai Crisis).

    Chavalit joins the government as Deputy PM. He is enthusiastic and cannot distinguish between Chavalit and Superman. Or Batman. He wants to cover himself with glory and re-asset himself as a poo-nam.

    A few short weeks later he resigns on a flimsy pretext and encourages the army to make a coup. he says he wants to ‘show responsibility’ and nobody comments that this is completely out of character for the man, and unique in his history of corruption and dismal behaviour.

    That is a fairly dramatic turn-around, even for a senile old fool with a huge (even by Thai standards) opinion of himself.

    Who got to him and what is the pay-back?

    Bedwyr.

  13. 13 Bedwyr 13 October 2008 at 10:55 am

    Perhaps TC should make a separate thread entitled ‘the path to civil war in Thailand’.

    This from the Nation today:

    Chalerm says PAD deserves slap for hating police

    Public Health Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said Monday that leaders of the People’s Alliance for Democracy deserved a slap on their mouth for saying they hate police following last week’s crackdown on protesters.

    How very like Chalerm to say something like this. Obviously consistent with the way he brought up his sons.

    Chalerm said he was a former police officer and he knew that police did not intend to kill or maim protesters.

    Of course the Police never meant to kill or maim people. Or bribe them. Or cheat them (remember the Saudi gems), or blackmail, suborn or frame people either. Of course. Famous for their integrity and honesty they are.

    Thailand just gets more and more bizarre and delusional.

    Bedwyr


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