Boat people scandal : more nonsense from Abhisit and more bullshit from the army

Abhisit, the so called Oxford educated Prime Minister, is literally diving deep into ridicule, day after day, about the boat people scandal.

Under international pressure, he tries to play the western card, by showing that he’s willing to have open discussions with the UNCR (the UN agency wishes to have access to the refugees). Willing to cooperate…

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has sought access to 126 Rohingya boat people believed to be held on Sai Daeng Island in the Andaman Sea.

However, the military told the Foreign Ministry yesterday it had “no clear information” about refugees in its custody that the UN wants to talk to.

Prime Minister Abhisit said: “We are glad to work with international organisations and concerned countries but they must understand that the problem does not begin here.

The UN refugee agency had the right to inquire over possible rights violations but it must work on cooperative basis with proper procedures set by the Thai government, he said. (Nation)

Abhisit is apparently fool enough to think that he can fool people with the regular cheap thai rethoric. It’s amazing.

So to summarize he’s glad to talk to international organisations… but we have to understand that the problem does not begin in Thailand… Nice excuse. Wake me up, it’s a nightmare.

Does he mean that if the thai navy is killing refugees (sorry : sending them far away, adrift at sea, with no food and no water) it’s not a problem because the issue does not begin in Thailand… ?

And what about the pathetic call for the respect of the “proper procedures” ? Abhisit is like a child, caught smoking in the toilets, and who tries to not loose face.

As for the comment from the military (“no clear information“), it would be a shame if it was not hysterically dumb.

Change with Abhisit ? Yes we can’t.

I’ve got a moved thought for all the suckers who believed that Abhisit would bring change to the thai political life.

I hope that they start to understand better now…

16 Responses to “Boat people scandal : more nonsense from Abhisit and more bullshit from the army”


  1. 1 Bedwyr 22 January 2009 at 5:48 am

    Fully agree. Both Bangkok Pundit and Thailand Through the Looking Glass have similar comments. In particular Vince’s comments echo yours and are equally vicious in their condemnation of unacceptable and uncivilised Thai behaviour – supplemented of course by the assumption that it is as easy to fool foreigners as it is to fool the Thai public with their confusion and lies.

    Abhisit is revealed as an Emperor without clothes. As Vince puts it – a eunuch. There is nothing he can do about the military because (as Prem reminded us) he is only the jockey, not the owner and the owner isn’t listening. So Abhisit is limited to getting on and doing what he is told.

    Rich

  2. 2 BangkokDan 22 January 2009 at 5:54 am

    A classic already. You could call him Abhisit Shinawatra and nobody could tell the difference.

    We’re just left wondering why they are the way they are, Thailand’s political leaders.

  3. 3 ThaiCrisis 22 January 2009 at 6:06 am

    [Please, Rich, no vulgarity. Comment edited]

  4. 4 Vichai N. 22 January 2009 at 7:26 am

    Abhisit Shinawatra eh according to BangkokDan! That was not humor BangkokDan but outright malice. Nobody can outdo Thaksin Shinawatra on any shenanigan ever.

    But I can sense the wolves can smell blood in this boat people scandal and they have all gathered to howl . . .

    I visited my dentist last night and our talk, in between drills and gum injections, focused only on this boat people scandal. My dentist and I both think the military most certainly carried on the near-killing (if not outright murders) of the boat people as described by the witnesses guided only by what we know of similar accounts during the Vietnamese boat people incidents of decade past.

    Maybe I should be howling too with the wolves.

  5. 5 fall 22 January 2009 at 1:11 pm

    More like Abhisit Leekpai, with all the “I do not know” and “Will have to wait for report”…
    May be it’s about time somebody reign in the military(yeah, like hell anyone could do that)? Or better boost their budget further, cause we probably gonna have more unrest in the South with all the stink this scandal make.

    With so much assault on all sides, I start to think this government wont last more than 3 months…

  6. 6 Bedwyr 22 January 2009 at 1:53 pm

    @Fall

    I am inclined to agree. It certainly hasn’t taken very long at all for Abhisit to become almost entirely transparent. Even I thought he would fool people for longer than this.

    I was interested in the reports that the way he is responding to this problem is to have a clampdown on illegal immigration. Odd really, I thought it was clamping down that caused the problem…

    Thailand is a laughing stock right now though, so those of use who believe that Bangkok is peopled mainly by clowns and idiots can be assured that view is shared by quite a lot more people now.

    So far, Abhisit has shown 2 faces. The liberal face says that PAD will be prosecuted and old crimes by the police will be solved. The fascist face says it is OK to kill illegal immigrants because it is really their own fault anyway, and that there be a clampdown on 4000 websites and lots more lovely lese majeste imprisonments to stop all those people hurting the King. national security issue that one and no mistake. Worse than treason, hanging too good for them I say.

    The problem is the only face that is walking the walk is the fascist face, the other face is only talking the talk.

    I predict that Abhisit will stop presenting the reasonable Eton/Oxford face quite soon and revert to type. Any one want to wager?

    Bedwyr

  7. 7 ThaiCrisis 22 January 2009 at 1:59 pm

    I’m willing to risk the Pascal Wager.
    😉
    I don’t believe Abhisit will change. He’s the perfect puppet-doll. They will keep him, as long as they can.
    He will just ridicule himself over and over… He doesn’t have the guts to become a strong leader or an iron-man (like Thaksin). He will continue to say “white”, and endure “black”… In other words : he will eat his hat (at breakfast, lunch and diner).
    But with a beautiful smile (and nice haircut).

    Change with Abhisit ? Yes we can’t. 😉

    But in any case, we’re having a lot of fun.

  8. 8 chinesethai 22 January 2009 at 2:52 pm

    I think this could turn out to be a joke once more, not for Abhisit, but for some foreign observers who seem to hold excessively negative view on Abhisit or unreasonable grievance against the Monarch.

    The issue of Rohingya Boat People has been around for decades. Few accounts of the plight of these people have been made by most humanitarian-concerned Western media. But suddenly just weeks after Abhisit became PM, it surfaced like storm.

    Same applies to the case of Tibetan riots in China just months before the Olympics opened in Beijing last year. Suddenly the West seemed to share the pain and empathy with those rioters. Again the empathy was suddenly gone once the Olympics ended!

    Apparently, they are the works of Anti-Chinese and Anti-Royalist lobbyists overseas, who want to make them a political weapon to destabilize or harm our reputation by the demand of some interest group or individual.

    In fact, Thailand has taken in millions of illegal Burmese migrants each year. Yes, there is corruption at the border checkpoint. But we never persecuted them. Instead, they are enjoying Thai education and many social benefits similar to what Thais usually do. Thailand has also offered shelter for Laotian Mhong minority refugees, who fled Lao PDR persecution, for decades as the humanitarian West, especially the U.S. Government, promised to accept them as humanitarian refugees into their countries. But it never happens. Now their population grew exponentially. They are sharing Thailand’s resources at the expense of Thai taxpayers.

    The West and those Red-Haired (ang moh) people are increasing become a laughing stock day-by-day because of their double standard value, right, Bedwyr?

  9. 9 ThaiCrisis 22 January 2009 at 3:20 pm

    The issue of Rohingya Boat People has been around for decades. Few accounts of the plight of these people have been made by most humanitarian-concerned Western media. But suddenly just weeks after Abhisit became PM, it surfaced like storm.

    Your rethoric is not acceptable.. To say that the Rohingya problem has been around for decade doesn’t excuse… to kill them. Now. Or before.
    In other words, following your logic, the thai army has previously killed boat people, so why do we react now ?

    Because, this time, pictures were taken.

    And also, because Abhisit promised transparency, rule of law etc.

  10. 10 chinesethai 23 January 2009 at 1:37 am

    No, there has not been any evidence that suggest Thai military involved in killing them. It is a pure allegation made by a western journalist. You cannot take a foreign media and apply the logic like “Oh, because it is BBC, CNN, AFP, Reuters, so we should believe them right away.”

    The pictures that were taken showed that the illegal refugees were told to lie down. The soldiers need to protect themselves too.

    I urge that the people of France, UK, US and Europe accept all those refugees into their countries now since they are concerned with human rights and since Thailand’s treatment of these refugees, in their eyes, is so inhumane. These civilized countries can only talk about just to make them look good. But behind the scene their conglomerates are still doing businesses with the junta. These countries are just good at PR and nothing more.

  11. 11 Rockderk the Great 23 January 2009 at 1:42 am

    Chinesethai said, among other drivel:
    “Same applies to the case of Tibetan riots in China just months before the Olympics opened in Beijing last year. Suddenly the West seemed to share the pain and empathy with those rioters. Again the empathy was suddenly gone once the Olympics ended!”

    I was in Lhasa in early 1989 when the PLA stormed the Jokhang temple. A freelance photographer friend of mine covered it and you can find his pictures of beaten monks and the burning temple in Time magazine (April ’89). The world was shocked and sickened by the callous brutality shown by the PLA and their plainclothes secret agitator branch who made sure the PLA had an excuse to go in hard. There were demonstrations worldwide and boycotts of Chinese products which I’m proud to say, I carry on to this day.

    Chinesethai, you sound like an extension of the lame government mouthpiece-of-the-day, Abhisit and his band of Chinese Thais. Why don’t you run for office?

  12. 12 ThaiCrisis 23 January 2009 at 4:07 am

    The “evidences” are unfortunately dead. Sent away, adrift on the sea. But I guess that was the aim, right ?

    However, we do have several testimonies, from survivors. And more than one group.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/23/thai-army-attacks-boat-people

    And history proves us that those methods seem “normal” in Thailand among some army forces and civilians (vietnamese boat people drama, documented over and over) etc.
    So stop playing with words.

    As for the idea that the Europe should have its share of illegal migrants… guess what ? We have MILLIONS of them. No need to cross a sea to come to Europe for many, many people.
    And it creates big problems with the population.

    This is why, I do not confuse and mix the situation. No one has asked Thailand to welcome thousands of migrants, against its will.

    We just ask Thailand to behave with dignity. And stop the bad old habits…

    Is it too much to ask ?

  13. 13 Bedwyr 23 January 2009 at 8:19 am

    TC, a moment if you will.

    I realise and understand this is your blog and you can do what you like, but why are my responses to the ridiculous ChineseThai not being posted?

    You cannot note Abhisits negation of free speech if you are going to do the same thing by not allowing valid responses to his snide remarks.

    Bedwyr

  14. 14 ThaiCrisis 23 January 2009 at 8:31 am

    ->Bedwyr. It’s very simple : because I don’t like when comments become too personal, with ad hominem attacks.

    I strongly disagree with CT regarding his comment about boat people. But I don’t feel the need to attack him personally.

    It’s like one of your sentence about Abhisit… It’s really not necessary to become vulgar.

    Thanks.

  15. 15 Bedwyr 23 January 2009 at 9:48 am

    TC, thanks for the explanation.

    My comments about CT are nothing whatever like my comments about Abhisit and his background at Eton, a college where buggery and the humiliation (fagging) of younger pupils is a tradition and long-standing historical fact. Sorry if that doesn’t appeal to you but I didn’t go there so I can;t help you with that.

    Doubtless you will apply the ad-hominem rule evenly, though I reject the notion that saying CT lacks ambition for being proudly Thai is such an attack. Merely a justified retort to his barb (you know, the one you approved). CT’s attitude (and I am not the only one, nor even the most vociferous of those regulars to your blog that think he is a clod) goes to the very core of the Thai attitude. The same attitude that is the subject of your own richly deserved but none-the-less ad-hominem attacks on Abhisit.

    A delicate balance to maintain, the balance between free speech and censorship. I wish you success in finding it.

    Bedwyr

  16. 16 ThaiCrisis 23 January 2009 at 11:24 am

    Fair enough Bedwyr, I can see that you’re a little bit offended. But I hope you do not loose your sense of humor.
    As for my own ad-hominem attacks against Abhisit, I agree, maybe it was a wrong choice of words, but you know what I mean… Sure I’m pounding him since he was elected PM, but I don’t think I attack him because he’s thai, or chinese or whatever. Anyway, let’s call it even.


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