The Reds end their protest at Government House and disperse


Red-shirts core leader Veera Musikhapong announced an end to the current anti-government protest in Bangkok on Tuesday morning as hundreds of soldiers surrounded the Government House camp where the remaining demonstrators had gathered.

Mr Veera said the leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) agreed to end the rally because they were worried about the safety of the protesters. (Bangkok Post)


To speed up the process of sending protesters back home, the authorities sent 60 buses to pick them up at the Royal Plaza.

Earlier, the authorities used 4 busses to send them to provincial bus terminals but the process was too slow. (Nation)

End ? Tactical retreat ? Sincere will to spare lifes ?

The point is : a potential explosive situation (thousands of protesters at Government House, surrounded by army) has been defused. And the authorities are playing their part by accelerating the evacuation.

Deputy PM’s Secretary-General and acting Government Spokesman Panithan Wattanayakorn announced Tuesday that the Cabinet resolved to declare Thursday and Friday extra holidays. (Nation)

Another good political move, so people can cool off. And it’s easier for the security forces to keep an eye open… And it’s always… popular ! 😉

However… the effects on industrial production are going to be negative… April because of Songkran is always a slow month… But this year… mixed with the economic crisis… it’s going to kill the GDP on Q2.

19 Responses to “The Reds end their protest at Government House and disperse”

  1. 1 thaichris 14 April 2009 at 6:49 am

    Was the protest bloody? Not really. It is still much more dangerious to drive a car than to mess up with the RED. Read this:

    There have been 220 deaths and 2,658 injuries from road accidents after four days into the “seven dangerous days” period of Songkran holidays travel, according to official figures.

    The casualties were derived from a total of 2,468 accidents, a number lower than last year’s accidents count during the same period by 481. However there were only 9 less deaths than last year.

    Dr. Paijit Warachit, the deputy permanent secretary to the Ministry of Public Health, said 81 people died from accidents on Monday alone. The top cause of accidents remained drunken driving.

    Chiang Rai province had the highest number of accidents so far, at 102.

  2. 2 Bedwyr 14 April 2009 at 6:51 am

    Round one has been foguth. Lines have been drawn, responses and support assessed.

    Anyone want to wager when round two will begin? I doubt Thaksin or anyone really thought it would be done quickly.

    I still think when push really comes to shove that the soldiers will not massacre protesters. Maybe I am wrong.


  3. 3 ThaiCrisis 14 April 2009 at 7:03 am

    Fair enough with the road fatalities… but really I’m not sure such false comparison can help… I mean it’s like if I say : “Darfur is fine, it’s okay… alcohol, tobacco and road accidents kill much more people per year”…

    It would be true on a statistical level… but totally different on an human level.

    In any case : a bloodshed has been avoided near Government House. And that’s a good news.

  4. 4 antipadshist 14 April 2009 at 7:56 am

    hey, TC

    looks like you’ve got mentioned in media ? 😉

    Thai crisis highlights …

    well, just kidding. but this article is worth reading !

    In countries like Thailand… many civilian rulers have learned the bitter lesson that the allegiance of the armed forces can mean the difference between their survival or downfall… weak civilian institutions and the military’s status as frequently the most organised and disciplined force in a country, often creates conditions ripe for army intervention….
    people look to the military in times of crisis because they are organised, disciplined and armed….

    Thailand has had 18 coups since 1932 when it became a constitutional monarchy, and since then the military has never been fully pushed to the background.
    Analysts said it would be difficult to keep the region’s army in their bunkers.
    “It’s hard because they have already tasted power”

    now I’m curious – taking into consideratino latest PAD’s statement (published by MCOT website) with critical words against Anupong and Suthep – say, if PAD is now anti-army, would they do better in confrontation with it? after all, Chamlnog won over Suchinda once.


    both Thaksin, UDD leaders and army know that it is NOT the end or Reds uprising. that’s why Anupong so Urgently obtained 1 bln Baht last month from ABhisit for ISOC.

    both sides will not give up so easily.

  5. 5 Gloomy Observer 14 April 2009 at 8:00 am

    I think what we just saw was not so much an organised revolt (although there are rumours that the tactics with buses had guidance from a certain general starting with P), but a riot – an expression of anger and outrage. Riots are messy and indiscriminate. But the important thing is to clean up, and then learn the lessons of why people felt so disenfranchised they were prepared to act like that…I fear if we see victor’s justice from the government for the red leadership without any attempt to address their concerns then we are just building up to a much larger round 2 when the next key trigger point in Thai history inevitably presents itself.

    If i were Abhisit I would be setting up a cross-parliamentary committee to change the constitution, and would be making sure the PAD get charged in the same week the red leaders do…

    But I think a conservative backlash may well be seen instead, with even larger doses of flag waving et al.

  6. 6 ThaiCrisis 14 April 2009 at 8:01 am

    looks like you’ve got mentioned in media ? 😉
    Thai crisis highlights …

    I’m cool. I’m not looking for any fame. Because : I was right.
    The title of my blog and the page ABOUT, recorded by the Web Archives in august 2007, are the proof that I was right. Before many people.

    It’s enough for my own satisfaction. 😉

  7. 7 ThaiCrisis 14 April 2009 at 8:04 am

    If i were Abhisit I would be setting up a cross-parliamentary committee to change the constitution, and would be making sure the PAD get charged in the same week the red leaders do…

    Indeed… But look how many months have passed since…. the PAD circus… And the thai justice is still very slow…

    I agree that if Abhisit was sincere, he would do that. But I doubt it.

  8. 8 antipadshist 14 April 2009 at 8:05 am

    oh, I forgot to share this article, seems like a good analysis :

    Thailand’s Chaos Exposes Division Between Rich, Poor

    ” “Many people feel that the outcome in Thai politics is determined by an old elite, and this is something that they are protesting against,” said Thitinan Pongsudhirak, director of the Institute for Strategic and International Studies at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. “This time, the protesters are going against the establishment, not just Abhisit.” ”

    Constitution Changed

    After the 2006 coup, the military rewrote the constitution to favor non-elected institutions and make it easier for judges to dissolve political parties. Thaksin’s supporters won a December 2007 election to restore democracy, only to see the courts remove two successive prime ministers. Abhisit took office at the end of last year after demonstrators who supported him shut down the country’s airports for eight days and a court dissolved the previous ruling party for vote-buying.

    More than 100,000 Red Shirts on April 8 rallied …

    “In the near term, the best way to avoid violence is for Abhisit to call an election,” said Kanin Boonsuwan, a constitutional law professor at Chulalongkorn University. “Longer term, the constitution needs to change to give more power to elected representatives.

  9. 9 hey now 14 April 2009 at 9:24 am

    seems a deal was must have been made. like everything else in Thailand, this was solved in secret between the two sides. and as usual we the public will never know the details. one thing is for sure, it’s impossible to really know anything about Thai politics.

  10. 10 Krid 14 April 2009 at 9:31 am

    The yellows might have been right doubting the intelligence of the reds: Open street battle in a metropolis like Bangkok, damaging public property and the means of transport of the poor, the gas truck shenenigans, the fight was lost before it started. Then retreating to government house where the yellow protests were ineffectual for five months, still the reds try the same idiotic tactic. And they probably don’t have the funds to finance a drawn-out protest at a symbol of state power which in effect nobody give’s a rat’s a** about since it was desecrated last year. The red leaders sound phony when they disown the stupidity they called for. They are terminally defeated, and so is Thaksin. The egoistical leaders in red and yellow have let down their moderate followers seeking real political change for the Thai people whose welfare is the furthest thing from their minds.
    Here’s hoping the khakis protect the airport in the improbable event of a bright moment of the reds.

  11. 11 antipadshist 14 April 2009 at 9:51 am

    Andy’s (of NM) latest article:

    the keyword here is a “figurhead” I think (6th paragraph).
    and it’s actual meaning out in the open already.
    and prhase “Thailand’s elite is not so conceptually adroit” perhaps sums it up.

    also I notice the “genie” analogy once again ! 🙂
    apparently this point is quite obvious to too many.

    so, I think this article (well, if not take into account Jai’s yesterday) is only a beginning of “boomerang” effect in media wordlwide. Abhisit can’t do anything about it.

    this is what Abhisit has already accomplished – not kicking ass of some old ban-nork Reds as a revenge for his face-loss with ASEAN !

  12. 12 Mythbuster 14 April 2009 at 10:02 am

    If Thaskin has achieved anything with this folly , it is to plant the seeds of a revolution in the poor Thai people’s minds.
    History tells us this is a weapon of , long term, mass destruction of the elites.

  13. 13 thaichris 14 April 2009 at 10:48 am

    Hey, all of you bloggers. Keep in mind that due to the fact that you can write more than two sentence in english you belong to that ‘elite’ as well. That’s at least the view of the RED’s. Do you remenber Pol Pot?

  14. 14 DavidB 14 April 2009 at 11:37 am

    Antipadhist,I read Andrew Walker’s essay and he does say some interesting things – although not a lot of it appears to be new thought from him. Still it is in a consistant form.
    I am however, a bit puzzled by what you mean, when you say :
    “this is what Abhisit has already accomplished – not kicking ass of some old ban-nork Reds as a revenge for his face-loss with ASEAN !”
    Perhaps it’s all the highs and lows of the past couple of days making me a bit dumb, but what do you mean by that ?
    Does it refer to Andrew’s piece, or the “state of play”, or something else.
    I would appreciate your enlightment. Thanks

  15. 15 David Brown 14 April 2009 at 1:56 pm

    just by the way…

    the redshirts kindly taken by bus from Government House were interrogated and their details recorded before being sent on their way home (not sure how that was done)

    I guess could call it an intimidation exercise by the army/police

    I wonder how many PAD people were ubjected to this process?

    I assume the puuyai are immune from this sort of treatment

    Why would the redshirts smash up a “perfectly good” armoured mercedes… perhaps because it had the famous Thai style blackened windows so you cant see who is inside and inimidates the police from stopping and charging people

  16. 16 antipadshist 14 April 2009 at 2:46 pm


    sorry for a somewhat hasty sentences.

    what I mean more precisely – what Abhisit actually achieved is creating a reaction only comparable with an avalance or the new tide of articles (as this one, also related to LM) in foreign media, which definetely are not gonna help the revered institution (which allegedly Reds wanna damage and Abhisit – to “protect”), but rather damage it more. you get my meaning ?

    although superficially it looks like that Abhisit just placed rural peasants back into their place as a revenge for his humiliation / face loss. it is of course much more than this.

  17. 17 DavidB 14 April 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Thanks anitpadhist, now I get your drift.
    I would like to think when the dust settles a little, the fact that this genie is now out in the world a large, after a period of “discomfort”, it could in fact bring about the changes so many people want – and the country needs.
    If it is true, Abhisit is now in a much stronger position and his “training wheels” have been detached, the future might not be as bleak, as people like David Brown and his ilk still only seem to see.
    Even if my vision of a “utopian” Thailand does not materialize,the puuyais will just have to accept things are different. And, that does not mean just with the “protection” of the “intstitution”, by some groups, but also the need to recognize and to address the needs of the disenfranchised in Thailand by all.
    The next week or so, will tell the tale.

  18. 18 antipadshist 14 April 2009 at 10:30 pm


    you’ve been exposed as fake ! 🙂

    coz here is The Real Thai Crisis :

  19. 19 antipadshist 17 April 2009 at 5:47 pm


    here is fresh example of my “drift” 😉

    it is latest article on Economist.

    so, as I said – Abhisit’s winning a “media battle”,a s many nowadays love to talk about – has only created a “boomerang” effect in media wordlwide ! and I think this Economist article is just a beginning. was this meager victory worth it, comparing with damage which certainly will be done ?

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