Airport seizure, PAD disagrees with charges so the police is… lost

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In unprededented legal tactics, the PAD suspects declined to follow the prescribed procedures of honouring their summonses for questioning.

Instead they have claimed the charges related to the two siezures of Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi airports as unjustified and wrongful. By refusing to acknowledge the charges filed by police, they have deviated from a normal proceedings applicable to all suspects.

And in the counter move, they filed a petition disputing the police justification to classify the seizures of two Bangkok airports as an act of international terrorism.

Since the PAD’s defence team raised objection to honouring the summonses, police could not proceed to complete the execution of the legal proceedings and were obligated to check relevant provisions before making a next move.

As lead investigator in charge of the case, assistant national police chief Lt General Wuth Puawes said he needed at least a few days to consult with his investigative team and the legal counsels before reacting to the defence tactics. (Nation)

Here are the keywords : “unprecedented legal tactic” and “few days“. 😉

What is astonishing is not the way the PAD is trying to defend itself… that’s the game… it’s of course the (alleged) reaction of the police. Poor officers, the suspects just… disagree… So the police is lost ! 😉

Drugs dealers, murderers, rapists should do the same. Imagine the scene :

-The killer : No mister officer, I… disagree. Sure I’ve killed this man, but I disagree with the charge of “first degree manslaughter “. I got you !

-The police officer : Oh my God, that’s an unprecedented legal tactics. I’m dumbfounded. I need a drink. You’re free to go. And don’t forget to close the door behind you. Thank you khrap.

Already 8 months, and the story goes at snail pace… First the police needed to investigate and find more witnesses. In january, the case was supposed to be “70 % completed“.

And what about the occupation for several weeks… of the Government House ? ! Not a word. Maybe, It was perfectly legal. 😉 Everything is possible with a Lala legal system.

During the riots of april, the security apparatus didn’t spend a lot of time against the Red Shirts to “find witnesses” and argue about “unprecedented legal tactics”.

It’s just another proof that the system lacks credibility.

I’m wondering what our dear Prime Minister is thinking about this situation ? Afterall, Abhisit spoke a lot about the “rule of law”… You know the mantra and concepts he learned in Oxford. Very useful in Thailand…

Anyway. Like at the cinema, we shall prepare the popcorn… and wait for the next episode of this hilarious saga.

18 Responses to “Airport seizure, PAD disagrees with charges so the police is… lost”


  1. 1 chinesethai 17 July 2009 at 8:34 am

    ThaiCrisis:

    The Pro-Thaksin police shouldn’t have charged PAD with terrorism in the first place. Everybody knows that they will lose. Common sense would tell you that terrorism charge is ridiculous and makes no sense, particularly when all the video clips and 24-hour tape are available. If fact-finding is to be done, the Suvarnabhumi Airport Director would instead be charged. Do you believe me?

    There are more news on Red side. You’d better follow it closely NOW. Korn was almost gunned down last night in Chiangmai by Red Shirt. A police officer was shot. Businesses in Chiangmai are in trouble as they have been already hit by low number of tourists and… Red Shirts!

    An update to you on economy… An army of Japanese investors, from MNC to SME, continue to be interested in Thailand as their bases.

    Truth always prevails.

  2. 2 Bedwyr 17 July 2009 at 8:59 am

    They got all confused.

    Thais are easily confused. If you want to test this, go to a petrol station, wind the window down so they can see you are a farang, then talk to them in Thai. The difference between what they expect to hear and what they actually hear causes great and amusing confusion.

    Life in Thailand is not without its compensations…

    Bedwyr

  3. 3 ThaiCrisis 17 July 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Don’t get me wrong : I never said that “terrorism” charges were appropriate !

    For me, the siege at the Government House was way more serious than the blockade of the airport. A real rebellion act. And it’s funny that no one, even the police, is talking about it anymore.

    What I find hilarious is the way the police behaves. And for that matter, you can not say that they are “pro Red” ! Because if they were, they would do a more… serious job. I mean here, it’s just Benny Hill copulating with Monthy Python. It’s grotesque.

  4. 4 chinesethai 17 July 2009 at 2:31 pm

    ThaiCrisis:

    The police are divided. There are the police who are Pro-Thaksin, Pro-Nevin, and those who still adhere to justice. The latter is minority and is assigned to handle Sondhi assassination attempt case.

    The Pro-Thaksin police seek to go after PAD in the case of the Airport blockade because one of the Red Shirt leaders, Weng Tojirakarn, also formerly PAD Chamlong Srimuang’s friend, chose to file PAD on the ground of terrorism. They don’t mean to get all PAD leaders jailed but aim to discredit PAD leaders among uninformed Thais and most importantly to pressure Kasit Pirom off the Foreign Ministerial seat. Kasit Pirom is the most active in this administration to go after Thaksin.

    ThaiCrisis, filing charges on PAD’s seige of the Government House would also lead to fact-finding on many deaths of PAD protesters in many mystical bomb blast incidences.

    Please have an update on last night incidence in Chiangmai to prove your neutrality.

  5. 5 Steve 17 July 2009 at 4:05 pm

    @ chinesethai:

    From my scanning of various news sources, I see only that police blocked “Redshirt” protesters from reaching the hall where Korn was due to speak. I have also heard that one of their number was arrested for carrying an unlicensed pistol and later charged/held at Phuping police station.

    For you, this becomes “Korn was almost gunned down last night in Chiangmai by Red Shirt”. Do you care to cite any sensible source (i.e. not The Manager or ASTV) to support your speculation? Similarly, I find NO mention of any policeman being shot. Source for that?

    What was that you were saying about “Truth always prevails”?

    In any case, what has any of this to do with the subject in question? Zero.

  6. 6 Steve 17 July 2009 at 4:18 pm

    @ chinesethai (again):

    I forgot to mention……… I actually live in Chiang Mai and see absolutely no sign of “businesses in trouble” as a result of anything whatever to do with “Red Shirts”. Tourist downturn because of the global recession – not to mention because of PAD achieving the worst PR for Thailand tourism thanks to them closing the airports – certainly (but that’s hardly breaking news, is it?).

    What’s next on your list of fabrications – Red Shirts spread H1N1? Why not? Makes as much sense as your others………

    “Truth always prevails” – such a catchy phrase.

  7. 7 chinesethai 17 July 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Steve:

    As a farang, living in Chiangmai doesn’t prove that you are exposed to the truth particularly when you have already taken side. I have a friend, who has chemical factory in Samutprakarn and also a big hotel in Chiangmai. She said who would have wanted to travel to Chiangmai now when they know that violent Red Shirts are there.

    I have the evidence. The police had sent a spy into the Red Shirt so assassination of Finance Minister last night have been prevented. Once again, Steve, what are your “various” news source? D-Station?

    I can’t believe farangs are also divided. My sympathy to Red-Shirt farangs.

  8. 8 chinesethai 17 July 2009 at 5:59 pm

    This photo should prove Chiangmai tourism is unaffected by Red Shirt violence but by H1N1 only, according to Steve.

    img521.imageshack.us/img521/8653/552000008666812.jpg

    img268.imageshack.us/img268/8414/p79111625.jpg

    Just say again that this is from ASTV so it is not credible. Somebody might dress up as a Red Shirt holding gun in his hand, right?

  9. 9 Pricilla 17 July 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Chinesethai, where on earth did you succumb to the notion truth always prevails? Truth is a perspective, ask and red and yellow and you will get two different answers. Likewise with history, the truth is written by the victors. Haven’t you ever had an intractable disagreement with someone, both of you utterly convinced you are right. Truth is a conviction reinforced by your own belief system and all that entails.

    The PAD did wrong and should be brought to account, as should the Reds. The government should hammer them both as an equal and perceived as fair example. In an ideal world justice is blind, but we all know it isn’t.

    I hope you are correct about the Japanese, the Thai economy is geared for foreign investment and relies on it.

  10. 10 CNXJeffrey 17 July 2009 at 6:24 pm

    There is absolutely no damage to Chiang Mai business caused by Redshirt activities. In fact there seems to be quite a number of adventurous (alien) trekkers about town.
    Perhaps the CNX Redshirt protests are only striving to achieve the PAD standards of “innovation in demonstration” and having “a lot of fun” doing it.
    Just look at how easy it has been for the PAD to get away with their (clearly seen to all, evidenced in this TC article) criminal damage to the country.

  11. 11 Lloyd 17 July 2009 at 10:28 pm

    It all shows that regardless of political persuasion that the Thai police, and by extention the Thai prosecutors office, are pretty much as stupid and ignorant of their own stupditity as the vast majority of the ‘educated’ population.

    I dont believe it makes any difference if anyone from PAD is ever prosecuted, the damage to Thailand and its reputation worldwide was done the minute the first flight was cancelled, all that has followed has reaffirmed what that vast majority of the world thinks.

  12. 12 fall 17 July 2009 at 10:39 pm

    What tactic are they talking about? A summon warrant had been officially ignore, so issue an arrest warrant. It cant be more clear than that.

    The PAD does not really fear terrorist charges. But the real catch is another charge that would follow, “financing terrorism”. With so many official endorsement, the fall out is just unacceptable.

    Occupying the government house was not terrorism. It was an act of treason, attempting to overthrown the government by force(so were the coup). But, alas, truth always prevail…

    By God, this country is hilarious… daily Benny Hill…

  13. 13 Steve 18 July 2009 at 3:30 am

    Chinesethai:

    I have no “side” as you put it. There are thugs aplenty wearing yellow, red, blue and we wait to see what other colours.

    NO mention of what you describe in news agency reports nor in Bangkok Post or The Nation – and at least the latter is plainly no friend of UDD/DAAD. Have you ever set foot here in Chiang Mai? Has your hotel-owning friend been told by departing guests that they are evacuating the city because of fear of a passing protest march by a couple of hundred people? Is a chemical factory near to Bangkok somehow relevant to this?

    I was only guessing at the possibility of ASTV/Manager as a source for your version of “reality” – but you confirm it. I prefer to believe the evidence of my own eyes. Since you mention ASTV and “Somebody might dress up as a Red Shirt holding gun in his hand, right?” – sure, they’ve been shown to have done worse and can’t be regarded as a credible source. It’s a propaganda machine – as is D-Station from what I hear. I suggest you’d do better to remember “In war, truth is the first casualty”.

    “I have the evidence” you say. Fine – produce it. And do feel free to continue with your mis-quoting and distortions; it just shreds further whatever little credibility for your case you may have left.

    Oh – and leave out the gratuitous “farang” stuff……. it’s really pathetic.

  14. 14 antipadshist 19 July 2009 at 3:15 am

    TC

    I remember reading on Nation quoting PAD lawyer(s) saying that they will fight charges by … stating that their occupation of airports was totally legal !
    I thought then – what else can be said ? 🙂

    about “justice” …

    reminds me an episode in a movie I watched yesterday (“ The International“, with C. Owen), where Salinger talks to col. Wilhelm Wexler who tells him :

    Justice is not impossible. You idea of justice is an illusion.” because “everyone is involved
    (also interesting is his advise to “go outside the boundaries of justice” if Salinger really wants to achieve REAL justice … )

    so, the so called “Justice” is a big joke nowadays, and perhaps especially so here in Thailand.

  15. 15 Tarrin 19 July 2009 at 11:30 pm

    If the PAD get away with this then what will happen in the future????

    The Triump employees who just got fired couple of months ago might close down the airport to demand the government to do something about it…… and the sad part is they will get away with it according to rule of law set by the PAD.

  16. 16 FarangKyAY 21 July 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Hi,

    Concernong the occupation of Government house; maybe I misunderstodd but I read that Government Abhisit didn’t press charges against PAD.

    That sounds weird as I thhink it’s the first step required by Insurance companies to get compensations. But maybe Thailand, like other countries, is its own insurer…

    FKA

    Ps: I appreciate your website, please keep your flourished way of writting.. 🙂

  17. 17 KotexPAD 22 July 2009 at 12:51 am

    PAD guards went up the control towel to say if they don’t shut down Suwanapoon, they’ll make damage. Could the Director have any other choice?

  18. 18 Vox Populi 22 July 2009 at 10:52 am

    @Chinesethai:

    “I have a friend, who has chemical factory in Samutprakarn and also a big hotel in Chiangmai. She said who would have wanted to travel to Chiangmai now when they know that violent Red Shirts are there.”

    So your ‘evidence’ is ‘my friend who owns a hotel in CM told me.’

    Astonishing. Well, I’m convinced. Obviously this is the reason international arrivals are dropping as well.

    And thanks for this: “The police are divided. There are the police who are Pro-Thaksin, Pro-Nevin, and those who still adhere to justice.”

    It would be harder to think of a clearer demonstration of the inability of the Thai educational system to teach critical thinking and/or any real debating skills.


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