3G Phone licences : the minister criticizes foreigners and… Abhisit agrees

The long-delayed auction of third-generation (3G) mobile broadband licences scheduled for mid-December could be put on hold indefinitely if Ranongruk Suwunchwee has her way.

The Information and Communications Technology (ICT) minister wants the auction put off as long as possible, reasoning that the conditions deter state telecom enterprises and favour foreign players.

“These conditions discourage TOT and CAT Telecom but pave the way for foreign players to freely bid and grab our national resources,” Mrs Ranongruk said after meeting executives of both state telecoms over the weekend. (Bangkok Post)

Grab our national ressources ? ! Unbelievable.

A cheap nationalistic rant from the ICT Minister (?)… She’s happy to be the citizen of a third world country, where 3G phone could arrive (maybe, perhaps) in 50 years… Time for thai companies to… to what by the way ? 😉

I mean even Laos has 3 G phone system !

But in Thailand it’s more important to save the arse of the buddies… I mean : competition is a very bad word in Thailand. It’s a stupid concept, designed by stupid foreigners.

Anyway.

The good point is that Abhisit (“Change Yes We Can’t”) fully agrees !

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva says that Thai telecom operators with limited capital deserve a fair chance in bidding for 3G mobile broadband licences because they might be at a disadvantage compared with foreign investors. (Bangkok Post)

The little puppet prime minister knows that he must kiss the hands of his real masters : not the foreign telecom companies.

And what about fairness, a word that the so called Oxford educated prime minister loves (along “democracy”, “rule of law” blablabla) ?

Why they don’t reduce the price of the licences ? 😉 Of course it would be too complicated for their one-neuron-brain. And they are way too greedy.

They want both the money of the licence, the butter of their thai buddies… and the arse of the foreigners.

So, stupid foreign investors. Now you do know, don’t you ?

😉

22 Responses to “3G Phone licences : the minister criticizes foreigners and… Abhisit agrees”


  1. 1 Mr.? 6 October 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Who needs 3G when you can innovate and reflect on?

    • Shouting. Helps solve employment issue by creating employment opportunity for ‘town criers.’
    • Running with a message. Reduces Thai obesity and great game of Chinese whispers)
    • Carrier Pigeon. Also a good source of nutrition.
    • Drums. An alternative sort of bang-bang!
    • Smoke messages – bonfires lit in succession on a line of hilltops. But maybe too dangerous as it might set fire to your neighbor’s house, or worse yours.
    • Writing. We all know how efficient the Thai postal system is!
    • Messages carved on wood. Employs the unemployed carpenters – but might spread termites.
    • Learning the whistled language of Gomera, in the Canary Islands, which can be used to communicate across deep valleys. Improve Thai education and manors. (No more whistling from the arse.)
    • Buffalo express. Great tourist attraction, good eating and the hides can be used housing.
    • Hand signals (but will need to learn more than the one figure gesture)

  2. 2 sqammy 6 October 2009 at 2:04 pm

    nothing comes here except by way of monopoly-concession. Dont agree to the monopoly in thai hands? you cant get your product in. That’s the way it works .Thats why everything is so much more expensive (except for the big people who can get it free or without paying duty) for you and me, why service and service mind are non existant. But stupid foreign companies never learn. they keep investing, losing their investment, investing again. Thin Siemens investment in skytrain. Gone. Thing Abmamro investment in bank of Asia. Gone, Think, on and on. So experience has taught the thai they can get away with it and blame the foreigner at the same time. it really is…amazing.

  3. 3 Hans 6 October 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Hahahahaha, I wondered already when this will show up on your blog. This story is really unbelievable (but on the other side, so many other things are unbelievable in Thailand too).

    But I want to mention that “grap our national resources” is partially true as CAT and TOT are state owned, though it would be necessary to define “our”.

    Best
    Hans

  4. 4 ThaiCrisis 6 October 2009 at 4:03 pm

    I like the ida of “carrier pigeon”. So old fashioned. 😉

  5. 5 In Phuket 6 October 2009 at 4:23 pm

    There was something in the printed version of the Bangkok Post today in the same article that has Mr. Democracy Abhisit saying something about the open airways as a ‘threat to the government’
    Can someone locate that and put it in this thread.. It was hilarious.

  6. 6 Moggoid 6 October 2009 at 4:36 pm

    A mobile broadband spectrum is now a resource…to be grabbed..I thought telephony was a service. Silly me.

  7. 7 Mr.? 6 October 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Thailand is probably the cheapest market in emerging Asia. The SET index trades on a p/e ratio of just 12.8 times this year’s expected earnings, even after a near 60% rally this year. So does that make it a buy? No.

    The political situation remains appalling. The coalition that took over last December after a democratically elected government was forced out by politicised courts and the army’s refusal to act against protestors that were paralysing the country, is still supposedly in power.

    But it says everything that many of the crucial figures in this weekend’s discussions about fixing the country’s disastrous constitution are technically banned from politics.

    Thailand is not a functioning democracy. It’s a motley crew of different interests – the royals, the army, businessmen, key provincial politicians, the judiciary – conniving behind the scenes. That wouldn’t be a problem – democracy isn’t necessary for development – if most of them were pulling in the same directions. But they’re not.

    To take just one example, last week, a court ordered Bt400bn ($12bn) of oil and petrochemicals projects to be halted on environmental grounds, even though the plans follow government guidelines. The projects are big enough to have an impact on growth by themselves – but the real problem is that if this ruling is upheld, it risks scaring off future investment plans by Thai and foreign firms. Who wants to invest in a country where even those who make the rules don’t seem to have a grip on what they are?

  8. 8 Pricilla 6 October 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Most amusing in an inane manner. Maybe best to just wait for the next technology and skip 3G altogether.

    Interesting the Minister didn’t seem to mind foreigners grabbing national resources when she was in the soapy massage business.

  9. 9 Mr.? 6 October 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Thailand continues to try to dump its products on other countries without recourse. However, like Thailand, everyone is trying to protect their domestic industries so when caught the offending country faces anti-dumping probe. Below is an example of such a probe. There have been many similar Thai anti-dumping probes this year.

    Industry
    Anti-dumping probe against phenol imports initiated
    http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/03061615.htm

    NEW DELHI: The Government has initiated a probe to impose anti-dumping duty on imports of phenol, used in the making of plywood and particle boards, to protect the domestic industry from cheap shipments from Japan and Thailand.

    Acting on an application of domestic producers on the alleged dumping of the chemical from Japan and Thailand, the Directorate General of Anti-dumping and Allied Duties (DGAD) has initiated anti-dumping probe.

    “After finding evidences of dumping of the goods from the two countries, the DGAD has initiated investigation,” an official said.

  10. 10 Mr.? 6 October 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Good article on Thailands Culture of corruption

    Ghost of Thaksin’s past visits Abhisit
    By Seth Kane
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/KJ07Ae01.html

    WASHINGTON & BANGKOK – Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva recently returned from meetings in the US where he assured investors & diplomats that recent protests and unrest were in fact a sign that Thailand’s democracy is vibrant and on the right track.

    While he may have impressed certain foreign audiences with his polished presentations, his inability to impose his will on an increasingly unwieldy and seemingly corrupt coalition has raised questions domestically about his government’s credibility & legitimacy.

  11. 11 Socrates 6 October 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Surprise, surprise!

    This enterprise is called the THAI FACTOR!

    There is no way in hell that Thai´s allow foreigners to make money in Thailand under any circumstances… unless they get their hands on the biggest peace of the pie.

    This a fact.

    It does not matter if you are a small time investor playing with all your hard earned money or if you are some big company trying to get in to a new market.

    But when it comes to doing business in Thailand NO ONE realizes or believes how difficult it is to avoid being robbed when once you are there. You can tell people, show them but usually you can not convince them because they don´t believe that this Amazing Land of Smiles is as corrupted as it truly is.

    They think they are the exception because their intentions are good and they are willing to benefit the Thai´s as well. But what they don´t realize (and believe) is that once they are in Thailand and have put their money in to whatever business they are screwed.

    This is the story of ALL investors who really wished they would never have been so stupid to even try. But the fact that they do try is understandable because people always treat the Thai´s like children and forgive them even tho they know precisely what they are doing… and smile once they have robbed you (no wonder that the Thai´s think farang´s are stupid). It is the responsibility of all foreigners who live in Thailand and have experience and insight in to the way things work to speak loudly about how things truly are.

    When you enter Thailand to do business new rules apply, rules that you never dreamed off in your worst nightmare. You get scamed and you get robbed and the whole time you are not allowed even to air your discontent.

    The only foreign people and businesses who do “successful” business in Thailand are those who are already corrupt and bring in dirty money to launder. Those people are not there to make money but to clean their dirty money and the Thai´s assume that´s the way with all foreign business. So these individual can afford to lose from 30-50% of their money while they are laundering it and still make a profit.

    All normal investor and business do not have a chance in hell to make a profit under these circumstances and they never do. That is the Thai Factor again.

    Anyone who has lived, invested and worked in Thailand knows this to be true. But Thailand reputation is getting worse by the minute both in the tourist sector and the investment one. Plus the Thai currency is now the most over valued currency in the world (fake) and it scares the tourist and investors away.

    I think Cambodia is a much better place to go, both a tourist or investor. You get much more for you money and people are generally much nicer and true Buddhist exists there, unlike the good-luck one´s in Thailand.

    I´m afraid the Thai elite is digging it´s own grave by being forever corrupt, dishonest, greedy and ignorant.

    We, the foreigners, must make that fact known to the outside world so the common people in Thailand have a chance of getting a better life. There will be no serious changes in Thailand unless the outside world cares and put´s pressure on them.

    And the Thai´s elite don´t pay attention or reform to anything unless:

    1. Money or lack of it
    2. Losing face to outside world and being punished…
    3. Pure pressure from the outside to reform and constantly reminding them that they still belong to the 3 world

    Actually I think there is no ultimate difference between Thailand and Burma. It is there on the surface but not under it.
    a) Thailand is reality a dictatorship like Burma even tho they claim to have democracy (not so)
    b) There is no real freedom of speech because you can NOT speak of things that truly matters and air your view´s about them. You are chained by golden chains to go mainstream even tho you despise that way. Same as in Burma. If not you go to jail and they put pretentious trail on stage where the outcome is decided in the beginning.
    c) Business is forbidden by foreigners in both countries in reality. In Thailand they pretend to allow foreigners to do business but that is only with the condition that you “give away” your human rights and also the majority of your assets and play the Thai game (see above).

    NB: look at this article about the 3-G phone license, a very good example of this.

    Those are just examples of course, but there are many more ways to bring light on this.

    You can even say that Burma has a more open and honest relation to the outside world because they do a lot less pretending then the Thai´s do. The Thai´s pretend to be democratic, open and a free society but it´s none of it. Burma does no try to pretend, so there is more honesty there.

    Anyway, just my thoughts on this subject build on several years of Amazing experience and wonder living in Thailand 🙂

  12. 12 Bedwyr 6 October 2009 at 11:17 pm

    @Socrates:

    “There is no way in hell that Thai´s allow foreigners to make money in Thailand under any circumstances… unless they get their hands on the biggest peace of the pie.”

    Yep.

    I don’t quite like schadenfreude, but I was greatly entertained at the protests from Thailand when their Jasmine rice got ripped off by USA ‘Jazzman’ rice.

    I looked for a genuine music CD in Bangkok last week. Couldn’t find one. But rip off Thais and they howl like banshees.

    Hilarious. Wonderful stuff.

    Grow your own dope – plant a Thai.

    Bedwyr

  13. 13 Tarrin 7 October 2009 at 7:56 am

    I think its time to put away those moron nationalistic a-hole in their place? who’s with me!?

  14. 14 CNXJeffrey 7 October 2009 at 8:33 am

    Another great leap foreward for the Land of Eternal “Development”. We’ve had the many parrots espousing the virtues of, now we may have the Sufficiency Pigeons providing the communications technology to advance.

  15. 15 In Phuket 7 October 2009 at 1:08 pm

    OK I found it, from the Oct. 6 BP 3G Article
    Direct from Mr. PM Democracy himself:

    “As well, he said, national security must be considered because ‘information warfare’ had become more intense, particularly given the use of new media channels to disseminate political and other content and the difficulty in regulating them”

    Just in case you missed it, that was “INFORMATION WARFARE” Are you f****ing kidding me?
    Remind me never to send my kids to an Oxford school.

  16. 16 Jonny 7 October 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Even Burma has 3G – Thailand is the only ASEAN member without it.

  17. 17 Bedwyr 7 October 2009 at 2:02 pm

    It has impressed me for a while how Thais, who are so very status-conscious, can have a skin as thick as a rhino. They don’t seem capable of feeling shame. Thus Barnharn, ‘Mr 20%’ probably the most corrupt PM since Adam was a lad (prior to Thaksin of course), can offer serious political advice with a seemingly straight face an with no obvious embarrassment or sham about his corruption.

    And thus this clown-ette can evidently hold her head up high while having no qualifications, no understanding, and (so it seems to all) not a single brain to interrupt the flow of light through both her ears.

    I was greatly amused by Priscilla who had this to say about this tragic and brainless old tart: “Interesting the Minister didn’t seem to mind foreigners grabbing national resources when she was in the soapy massage business.”

    Quite.

  18. 18 E. Spitzer 7 October 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Telecommunications Hub of Asia. 555555

    BTW Whats the status of getting a license from the ICT to legally sell VOIP services in Thailand, and to be able to hookup up to the phone system, including getting a local number ?

  19. 19 A democrat 7 October 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Pricilla: Good line — “Interesting the Minister didn’t seem to mind foreigners grabbing national resources when she was in the soapy massage business.”

    But that’s another one of the illustrious cabinet members. The minister of ICT is a former nurse. She is really a proxy for her husband, one of the 111 banned TRT pols. It goes without saying she knows nothing about ICT.

  20. 20 Pricilla 7 October 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Wrong Minister, bummer, kills off a good line. Or was she the Mister for Finance? In the end it really doesn’t matter I suppose with TC’s Frankenstein coalition as there is always another amazing announcement imminent.

  21. 21 Marvo 7 October 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I thought that every foreign investor in Thailand gets screwed over eventually, so having foreign money coming into Thailand for investment is like Thailand Inc. having it’s cake and eating it.


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