You feel bored ? Politically weak ? You’re a dirty thai politician ? Let’s declare war to Cambodia

The popularity rating of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva tripled after his decisive action of downgrading diplomatic ties with Cambodia, according to an Abac Poll survey released yesterday.
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Factors attributing to the rise in popularity include the sentiment against Cambodia’s attack on the Thai judicial system and concern over the consequences of the Cambodians’ appointment of fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra as an adviser. (Nation)

Mission accomplished ! Dirty Abhisit has won the day. Congratulations to him. I won’t comment more on this inane “let’s cut diplomatic ties with Cambodia” hysteria… It makes me sick.

Just 2 things :

-Abhisit is not ashamed to use a very cheap propaganda trick, in order to deflect attention from real problems and real issues. It’s the eternal “scapegoat” principle, mixed with the good old : “let’s go after foreigners”. Unfortunatly, It works very well.

-I don’t even think they had to manipulate the survey results. Thai people are, on this subject, totally stupid and brainwashed. Like europeans people were stupid and brainwashed in 1914. Those damned french, german who were so happy to go to war against each others, destroying their -common- civilization… Totally consumed by nationalism evil.

Anyway. The bottom line is : you can’t have any more doubt about Abhisit.

He’s just despicable.

Like all his peers (thai and combodian as well).

35 Responses to “You feel bored ? Politically weak ? You’re a dirty thai politician ? Let’s declare war to Cambodia”


  1. 1 ray 8 November 2009 at 5:39 pm

    actually this has been a great week for abisit. mr thaksin really shot himself in the foot this time. and abisit like the polititian that he is , took full advantage. when u look back to when he was appointed the pm, few would have predicted the govt would last this long. abisit seem sot be taking the bull by the horn and this opening was given by thaksin himself( wht the f(*& was he thinking?).
    llok back at 9/11. bush approval ratings was low but after 9/11 the country rallied behind him and if u were not supportive u are anti-american. same with abisit here.
    he should send a thank you note to dr thaksin.

  2. 2 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Sure… same with Bush… Sarkozy, Brown… Obama… Actually every politicians.

    My point : I don’t blame Abhisit for being a dirty politician, like all the others, I blame the suckers who believed in the “Yes We Can” fantasy, “rule of law”, “democracy”, “Abhisit is different” and all the bullshit we were served last december, when he was “elected” (ah ah ah) 😉

  3. 3 Regular Reader 8 November 2009 at 6:15 pm

    In all your rantings you forgot to rant against Thaksin.
    he’s playing in the same game with an equal amount of “manipulation” tools – come on show some guts and say some “nasty things” about him too.
    It is a despicable game – I agree.
    But I don’t agree the Thai people are as stupid as you imply.

  4. 4 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Thaksin is totally irrelevant in this story.

    Who decided to ride the nationalism bitch ? Abhisit.

    Peruse some of my old posts and you’ll see that I’ve attacked virtually every thai prime ministers, so I don’t have “rant lesson” to take.

    The point is : who is the current PM ? Abhisit. Not Thaksin.

    I’m so fed up of those kind of comments implying that we can’t criticise Abhisit because Thaksin was, is so evil…

    I don’t care about Thaksin, because he’s not current the Prime Minister of Thailand. When It was fire at will against Samak The Monster when he was PM (and god we have had a good time)… I didn’t care about Abhisit.

    And I should add that Thaksin didn’t serve us the “rule of law”, “democracy lover” blabla bullshit that Abhisit and his masters served us.

    This is the important point : the difference between words and acts from officials, government.

    As citizen, it’s our duty to scrutinize this and to refuse to open the mouth like cows to be fed by the cheap propaganda.

    So again, you should put Thaksin on the side, and break those mental chains : and look at what is left and what is relevant : the current government, led by Abhisit and his Frankenstein Coalition (Newin ex friends of Thaksin…) who is the playing the card “Evil Cambodians” for political gains.

    Last but not least : yes on this issue, the thai public is stupid. To become a supporter of an inane government because this gvt has just pointed its finger at Cambodians, is definitely a proof of stupidity.

    What else could it be ?

    Like it was a proof of deep stupidity from the Cambodians when they burned the thai embassy in Phnom Penh in 2003.

    Lack of education + corrupted government playing the nationalism card = the perfect recipe for disaster.

  5. 5 Regular Reader 8 November 2009 at 6:58 pm

    I never said you couldn’t criticize this government or Abihist’s actions.
    To say Thaksin is not relevant is niave in the extreme – it’s all about him.
    What does Abihist do?
    Sit back and let Thaksin and his proxy Hun Sen walk all over this goevrnment, so he can come marching back and carry on with his crap abou caring for the “poor” Thai people?
    Or does Abhisit try and put up some fight against him ?
    This is not about Hun Sen.
    This is not about the Thai people – although both sides would like to “win” their hearts.
    This is about one man who won’t give up – unlike previous losers in this on going Thai political game.
    You gotta give him credit for his guts.
    But it is about HIM.
    You as a commentator, should be able to see this

  6. 6 E. Spitzer 8 November 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Cambodia is playing a risky game. Recalling the ambassador is one thing, but if Thailand closes the borders and/or blocks flights from Thailand to Cambodia, then Cambodia is really screwed. I would guess that 95% of the foreign tourists travel to Cambodia via Thailand (the other 5% is from Vietnam). And if Thailand wanted to they would eliminate the high season in Cambodia, which is heavily dependent on tourism revenues.

    Not saying this is a wise move, just that Cambodia seems to have more to lose than Thailand.

  7. 7 Regular Reader 8 November 2009 at 7:14 pm

    <>
    Isn’t that what happened in the US and several other countries during the early part of the Bush years ?
    As long at there are democracies or any form of them this will go on. That’s “freedom of opinion”.
    Okay, I know your answer to that “but Thailand is not a democracy”.
    Maybe not (in the way many other countries are, or claim to be), but Thai people have learnt to adapt in the political arena.
    If these polls (including the one that came out today) are correct, this new “support” for the government is probably, more a kick in the guts for Thaksin, as he has betrayed them, than as support for the government – or the one you hate so much, Abhisit.
    In saying what you say, you give no credibiltity to Thai loyalty.
    One could perhaps write a book on the merits or otherwise of this belief in country. But it is what it is.
    I often wonder of it is somewhat misplaced patriotism, but isn’t this the glue that keeps all nations together?
    If it is how Thai people organize their sense of self – so be it.

  8. 8 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Okay, let’s talk about Thaksin.

    Of course Abhisit has the right to fight back. Of course Thaksin is biting the thai gvt since the Coup in 2006, like a fly that won’t go away. And of course the “adviser” of Hun Sen story was an obvious provocation.

    Fair enough. But once you’ve said that, what’s next ?

    What’s next is Abhisit’s reaction. In a civilized country, you don’t call back your embassador because of such provocation. You don’t burn flags in the streets. You don’t pound your chest, like a monkey, to show your intense wrath. You don’t call your people to show their own wrath against the common ennemy and to save the “national reputation”…

    Particulary when, like Abhisit did, you speak about “rule of law”, “democracy”, smiling at Davos, at the G20 in London, shaking hands with Obama, saying that you are different etc.

    This is the hiatus.

    If Abhisit wants to play it the hard way against Thaksin, fair enough, it’s a struggle for survival : what makes me sick is the propaganda, the difference between the cardboard, the smiles in front of the camera, and the reality.

    At least Samak has this great quality : he was an obvious monster…. but he never tried to hide it. 😉

  9. 9 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Cambodia seems to have more to lose than Thailand.

    Don’t worry…. The Chinese are counting the points of this despicable play… And if it turns bad for Cambodia, they will provide their “friendly” help…

    South East Asia is (now) nothing more than the backyard of China… Burma, Lao, Cambodia… China rules. Behind, differently, quietly, but does rule indeed. But that’s another topic.

    And Thailand has much to lose on the international scene. Because Thailand tries to pretend. Like Abhisit tries to pretend (to be something, somebody he’s not).

    I mean have you heard recently about Cambodia on the international scene ? Have you heard Hun Sen trying to pretend to be what’s he’s not (a democratically elected leader, and a good and honest PM for his country) ? 😉

  10. 10 charlesfrith 8 November 2009 at 7:23 pm

    I left this comment over at the WSJ on Thaksin if anyone wants to join in or correct me.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125738991126830041.html

  11. 11 Regular Reader 8 November 2009 at 7:30 pm

    I come from Australia and Samark reminds me of some of the state premiers, we had in the 50s through to the 70s.
    These guys were great at getting what they wanted for their state.
    They all had lots of less than “honest” cabinet members, but they got things done, even though they were reasonably “honest” themselves. I think Samark was like that.
    But as someone to lead the country on a world stage in this century, he was no better than Barnharn and Chavolit.
    As for Abhisit, he is no better or worse than Tony Blair, Kevin Rudd and Obama. They are all politicians of this era and all are full of that “cardboard, smiles in front of the camera”, as you correctly call it for Abhisit – that’s life in this age.
    It’s also what Thaksin does so well – particularly when he’s playing to a “local” audience.
    Don’t tell me you want Chuan, or what was that guy in between, at the Dems – see I can’t even remember his name ? Or, do you want Newin – that’s be fun !
    We will never know if Abhisit can deliver, until there is a proper opposition to this government.
    But we might know how good he is at playing the game, as it is played today – and win, if he wins this spat.

  12. 12 chris 8 November 2009 at 7:50 pm

    I returned to Thailand this evening from a week in Cambodia.

    Every Cambodian I asked (over 100 but not scientific) gave me the same list of historical greivances about Thailand’s present and past bullying of Cambodia, from the attempt to grab Siem Reap when the Japanese came into Thailand to the Thailand support of the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot which costs thousands of Cambodian lives. They all seem to be aware of the condescending attitude by most Thais towards their little brown Khmer brothers to the east. In general Cambodians do not rate Thais as their past or present “friends” and seem to have a universal antipathy towards Thais and Thailand.

    In regard to the Cambodia economy, the largest foreign investor in Cambodia by far is China which is investing in many large scale infrastructure projects as well as very large industrial projects. After China comes South Korea, one of their projects being a new 55 story building that is going up in Phnom Penh. Then Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, the U.S., France, Vietnam, Australia, etc.

    Thailand is not that crucial an investor in Cambodia to have any leverage. In fact, the Thai investments already in Cambodia make Thailand quite vulnerable, not powerful. For instance if the borders are closed the Thai company PTT will have a major problem with its petrol stations in Cambodia.

    In regard to Cambodia trade with Thailand, Cambodia trade goes thru the port of Sihanoukville with ships coming from Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, etc. Not many Thai ships.

    Cambodia trade also goes up and down the Mekong River, mainly to and from Ho Chi Minh/Saigon but also thru Laos all the way to Kumming, China. Almost nothing from Thailand.

    Some trade with Thailand goes through the tiny western cites like Poipet and Pailin but those are on the fringes of the Cambodia economy and not terribly important. Some trade goes between Trat and Koh Kong in the south but only local small goods and supplies, nothing major.

    IE., Cambodia does not actually “need” Thailand for investment or trade. They have plenty of bigger, richer and more powerful partners very eager to be on good terms with them, especially China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, the U.S. and Vietnam.

    Every Cambodian I spoke with asked me why Thailand is trying to steal the Cambodian temple. Every country in the world (including even Thailand until a year or so ago) recognizes that the temple is part of Cambodia. This is not ambiguous or point in dispute.

    All the world’s countries support the Cambodia point of view that the temple is in Cambodia. The United Nations as well. Thailand has not one country supporting its claim to the temple as espoused by the PAD/Yellow group.

    In regard to the oil/gas exploration off Cambodia’s coast, they are already in prep on the undisputed zones with one of the largest oil companies in the world, Chevron, which has extremely close ties with the U.S. government. The oil/gas in the disputed zone at the border area is down the list for development and not a present priority. Therefore, even tearing up the MOU on the disputed zone gives Thailand very little leverage and in the end, Cambodia might win the case against Thailand even having the right to unilaterally tear up the MOU.

    If it ever came to a shooting war, Thailand’s technology superiority such as its Air Force will not really be usable as I do not believe Thailand will be given a “pass” to bomb the industrial area of Sihanoukville or any targets in Phnom Penh.

    Thailand’s tank advantage is irrelevant in the forest mountain zone around the temple.

    Thailand’s navy will not be allowed to “blockade” the Cambodia coast.

    Which leaves one-on-one, hand-to-hand, face-to-face jungle fighting between the Cambodia Khmer jungle fighters and the Thai troops sent to the border area who probably don’t even want to be there, much less crawl around in the insect soaked jungle doing hand-to-hand combat with Khmers.

    Historically, Thailand has always sought to have a “buffer zone” between Thailand and its historical rival Vietnam. Vietnam now has a population almost 20 million bigger than Thailand. Vietnam is graduating far more science and engineering graduates than Thailand ever will.

    While “poorer” than Thailand at the moment, Vietnam is poised for rapid sustained growth, has a powerful military, a very educated and very hard-working population, and is extremely happy to step in and help Cambodia overcome any shortcomings that result from a distancing of the Thailand-Cambodia relationship.

    IE., taking the above into consideration, it would seem to many observers that at the present moment, by stirring up the temple dispute and over-reacting to the various Hun Sen provocations, Thailand is on the verge of unknowingly and unwittingly “shooting itself in the foot”……..

  13. 13 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Chris, I share 100 % of your views and analysis.

    That’s the main problem with Thai’s elite : they didn’t realize… that the world has evolved… Without them.

    I mean : the rozy 70’s when Thailand was an oasis of normality in the middle of an insane hell, protected, helped and beloved by the US… are long gone ! In those days, Thailand was in “the center”. Like a princess courted by many princes…

    It’s of course a huge strategic shift. And they lag far, far behind. Not on the ground. But first : in their head.

    Wake up call is going to be painful.

  14. 14 ThaiCrisis 8 November 2009 at 8:00 pm

    No, I won’t tell you that I want Chuan, nor Newin… Of course not.

    When I said that Samak has had at least one quality… It was of course ironic. Samak, as PM for Thailand, was a nightmare.

    That’s our drama : we are not satisfied with what we have… but meanwhile we don’t know if… we could find… anytime soon somebody that could fit the job.

    But in any case : I prefer to be dissastified and frustrated rather than to be resigned.

  15. 15 Bedwyr 8 November 2009 at 8:03 pm

    @Regular Reader @TC et al.

    One thing needs to be sorted out in this endless and boring mantra that Abhisit cannot be criticised because Thaksin was a bad man.

    And it is this:

    If Abhisit had a mandate to govern from the Thai people, Thaksin could do whatever he wanted and it would not make a ripple.

    If Abhisit had a mandate to govern from the Thai people, then he would be surely able to ignore Thaksin and get on with the job he was elected to do.

    But he doesn’t, and he knows that if an election were to be held tomorrow, then Thaksin would win again and wreak a terrible revenge, because let’s be frank, another coup is not acceptable to the majority of Thais and would not be acceptable to the world.

    So Abhisit is terrified of Thaksin and cannot afford to ignore him, so he becomes obsessive, which he and the rest of the reactionary elites doing right now. But only because he knows he is governing with no mandate from the Thai people to do so. He wanted to ride this tiger, to claim his 15 minutes of fame, and now he cannot get off because if he does, the tiger will surely eat his pretty ass. So he has to wait for the tiger to throw him off, and then eat his pretty ass.

    Please give me a break, if this were about the law, does anyone think that if Saxena were to claim sanctuary in C ambodia, then there would be talk of war? Of course not, it is the obsession the elites have about Thaksin, which is based on simple fear of what will happen when he comes back. Because as long as he draws breath, he *will* come back.

    Heads Thaksin wins, tails, cardboard cut-out Abhisit loses.

  16. 16 fall 8 November 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Thailand has more to loose than Cambodia.
    Recalling ambassador is one thing, but in the future which nations would deal with Thai government seriously if they are willing to revoke MoU at a whim?
    Sure, Thai dont rely on export to their neighbor Third world countries(which itself heading). But there would be a problem getting more FTA deal in the future with other major countries. Such a waste of political asset and credibility.

    The current condition in Thailand is exactly like Animal Farm.
    History are rewritten to make Snowball worst by the day and every oppression are back up by “Surely, you do not want Mr. Jones back?”

  17. 17 Regular Reader 8 November 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Both of us can agree, to be “disatisfied” – I think that’s what you meant? Although, maybe you did mean “disaster-fied”…?
    Also good comments from Chris.

  18. 18 E. Spitzer 8 November 2009 at 8:16 pm

    “Cambodia seems to have more to lose than Thailand.

    Don’t worry…. The Chinese are counting the points of this despicable play… And if it turns bad for Cambodia, they will provide their “friendly” help…”

    Agreed, its good for China, but not good for Cambodia.
    A quick search on the internet shows that 1/3 of Cambodia’s GDP is from tourism. Even if China did fill in the gap over time, closing the border could still cause immediate damage.

    Would be interesting to find out how much of the Cambodian gov’t is ‘owned’ by China and if they had a hand orchestrating the feud, while they sit back and make bigger investments in both countries.


    chris — Agreed I am not talking about Thailand FDI in Cambodia or their ability to restrict trade. But Thailand does have the ability to kill the Cambodian Tourism industry.

    “Thailand is on the verge of unknowingly and unwittingly “shooting itself in the foot”……..” — alas, something they are experts at.

  19. 19 chris 8 November 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Hun Sen’s latest idea clearly shows that Thailand has way more to lose than Cambodia if the borders are actually closed or trade is stopped, slowed or interfered with…………..

    Cambodia Prime Minister Hun Sen Sunday suggested that Thailand should not close the border between the two countries, warning that Cambodia will ban all Thai products from entering Cambodia if the border is closed.

    Kyodo News quoted Hun Sen as saying that Thailand exported $2 billion worth of products to Cambodia in 2008, while Cambodian exports to Thailand totaled $90 million.

  20. 20 chris 9 November 2009 at 12:18 am

    In regard to Thailand’s role in Cambodia tourist sector, most of the high value/high revenue tourism to Cambodia is in Siem Reap around Ankor Wat which is famous everywhere in the world among high value tourists regardless of Thailand and Thailand’s situation, problems and decisions.

    The tourism in and around Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville is mainly low value, low margin tourism in comparison with Siam Reap although there are several extremely large 5 star resorts being built in Sihinoukville at the moment and the Sihanoukville airport extension might be in operation by 2012 when these 5 star resorts (sort of like the Laguna resorts in northwest Phuket) are scheduled to open (their success depends on the airport extension which will allow direct non-stop flights into Sihanoukville from Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, KL, Tokyo, Ho Chi Minh/Saigon and Singapore and perhaps even from Australia and Europe like the Phuket Aiport).

    So the transformation of what is now a pretty low-value Sihanoukville tourist sector into high-value tourism will not depend on tourists arriving through or from Bangkok and Thailand. In fact, starting around 2012, Sihanoukville will be a fierce new competitor for the Thailand beach resorts and start to eat into Thailand’s beach resort market share.

    In regard to Siem Reap itself, while many high-value tourists are presently routed through Bangkok Airport via Bangkok Air to Siam Reap (35 per week), there are many more tourists arriving in Siem Reap on non-stop direct daily flights from Hanoi(21 per week), Kuala Lumpur (11 per week), Ho Chi Minh/Saigon (42 per week), Korea (8 per week), Vientiane (4 per week), Singapore (8 per week), as well as Phnom Penh itself (35 per week).

    Altogether a total of 129 non-stop direct flights from everywhere else in comparison to the 35 non-stop direct flights from Bangkok.

    If Bangkok Air were to be ordered by the Thai government to stop their extremely profitable Bangkok Siem Reap flights, Bangkok Air and the Thailand tourist sector itself would be the primary losers (not Cambodia) as the high-value tourists who want to visit Ankor Wat once in their lifetimes would simply route themselves through not only the above already existing gateways but also additional gateways like Hong Kong, Taiwan, Shanghai and Guangzhou which could add new flights to Siem Reap very quickly to not only take up any slack but actually increase the Siem Reap overall market.

    Thus, the point of view that Thailand somehow has powerful leverage over Cambodia’s high-value tourist sector going to Siem Reap is based on the no longer correct idea that the only flights into Siem Reap are going through Bangkok. Thailand has no more power to diminish, much less destroy, Cambodia’s tourist sector than it has any power over any other area of the Cambodia economy.

    The fact is, the role of Thailand in Cambodia, through its arrogance, neglect, blindness and general state of denial, has diminished severely from what it once was and it will diminish further, perhaps even to the point of irrelevance, if the present Thailand blunders and mis-steps are not brought under control and moderated asap.

  21. 21 Steve 9 November 2009 at 12:25 am

    “A quick search on the internet shows that 1/3 of Cambodia’s GDP is from tourism.”

    That’s an old statistic – in January this year Cambodian Deputy PM Sok An announced a figure that amounts to just under 19% (http://www.un.int/cambodia/Bulletin_Files/Feb09/Cambodia_GDP.pdf). Granted that’s still high enough to be significant – and presumably the drop is a reflection of the global tourism downturn.

    By comparison, according to Thai embassy (Phnom Penh) figures, Thailand exported goods worth $1.013 billion to Cambodia in the first eight months of 2009, while Cambodia in return shipped just $39 million (a ratio of about 25:1). If Thailand does escalate to a border closure/trade ban, that starts to look rather like cutting off your nose to spite your face – at a time when Thailand is borrowing/spending billions in stimulus packages.

    BTW, excellent comments/analysis from Chris.

  22. 22 Mr. & Mrs. Discobbolos 9 November 2009 at 12:34 am

    Slightly off topic.

    DARING article by Thitinan Pongsudhirak professor and director of the institute of security and international studies, faculty of political science, Chulalongkorn University, Bangkok, printed in the UK Guardian newspaper
    (Copyright: Project Syndicate, 2009)

    Thailand’s urban-rural split

    The nation is divided and in deadlock. Nothing is likely to be resolved until the ailing king is succeeded
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/08/thailand-rural-urban-split

  23. 23 Mr.? 9 November 2009 at 2:16 am

    Thaksin turns up the heat by placing his hopes in the man likely to succeed to the country’s throne………..

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6908493.ece

  24. 24 ThaiCrisis 9 November 2009 at 3:36 am

    “He’s not the king yet. He may not be shining [now],” Mr Thaksin told The Times in an interview from Dubai. “But after he becomes the King I’m confident he can be shining . . . it’s not his time yet. But when the time comes I think he will be able to perform.”

    The Crown Prince may not be as popular as His Majesty the King,” Mr Thaksin said. “However, he will have less problem because the palace circle will be smaller . . . He had education abroad and he’s young. I think he understands the modern world

    Bold !

  25. 25 Tarrin 9 November 2009 at 7:45 am

    While E.Spitzer is commenting about Thailand ability to destroy Cambodia’s tourist industry, I want people to look at the air port closure fiasco. Yes during that time foreigner werent able to go out and come in from the air port so instead they have to fly from Au Ta Pao and the neighbor countries instead, did you see Cambodian came out and beg the PAD to reopen the air port because the tourists cannot came into the country??? Nope no that never happen because the Singaporean, Malaysian, and Vietnamese were laughing from the influx of flight that got divert from Bangkok, smart eh.

  26. 26 African Nomad 9 November 2009 at 9:58 am

    @ Chris:

    Excellent information on Cambodia. Thank you very much indeed.

  27. 27 Bedwyr 9 November 2009 at 10:05 am

    ^ @TC.

    Yes, I suspect Thaksin is now making his run.

    Game on.

  28. 28 ray 9 November 2009 at 11:34 am

    finally the gloves come off… very soon ppl espcially in thai politics will have to choose sides.. thalsin has the 76 billion baht as the carrot and his vengence as the stick. if u dont fall in line u will face the wrath. also i believe thaksin has a lot of dirt on most of the politicians in the current govt.

    i just want to see how will the mailn stream media in thailand report on the times article. interesting times ahead.

  29. 29 Pricilla 9 November 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Thanks for an interesting read everyone. Speaking of Taksin’s revenge, I hope he doesn’t read Thai Visa.

  30. 30 Steve 9 November 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Well, I do – and presumably you do – but the (largely) knee-jerk ranting there is not for the faint of heart or for the serious thinker. Is Thaksin either of those? 😉

  31. 31 antipadshist 9 November 2009 at 8:15 pm

    check it out :

    Gold is 17500 Baht already – that is 1000 up comparing to prices merely a week or 2 ago !
    international price is above $1100 per ounce: $1108

    and check it out, for the big smart guys there is organized an appropriate even :

    http://www.namchiang.com/th/othermenu-7/6-2008-08-16-07-04-20/336-set-in-the-city-2009.html

    where one can buy (well, the one who can afford it of course) 1kg Aussie gold nugget 99.99 – anyone ? 😉

    Tarisa and whoever else might continue singing their songs. those who know what’s gonna be (development in global economic crisis) – are stocking up in real metal. and it is pretty evident in this “SET in the City in Bangkok 2009” fair.

    all this BS about Abhisit Vs Thaksin – is truly tiresome already! coz anyway, ultimately they are 2 sides of them same coin. and those who know it – they do not bother much, but get REAL coins – like that pretty Aussie gold nugget ! 😀
    and they let the masses to continue quarrel about Abhisit Vs Thaksin – coz after all, that was designed so, precisely to divert the attention from the REAL issues. as for Abhisit and/ or Thaksin – they were/are/will be merely a FIGUREHEADS anyway.

  32. 32 ThaiCrisis 9 November 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Antipadshist : you have definitely a point there… The Thaksin Saga is indeed boring. And the real stuff goes probably beyond the frontiers of Thailand.
    But still, the local political situation could compound, in some way, some global crisis, acting like a leverage.
    So I guess, we are not over with this Saga.

  33. 33 Insanity 10 November 2009 at 12:55 am

    AMAZING THAILAND

    Ramkhamhaeng says situation not yet warrant for revocation of Hun Sen’s degree

    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/30116183/Ramkhamhaeng-says-situation-not-yet-warrant-for-re

    The rector of Ramkhamhaeng University said Monday that the bilateral ties between Thailand and Cambodia has not deteriorated to the level the university should revoke its honorary doctorate degree given to Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen.

    The People’s Alliance for Democracy Monday called on the university to revoke Hun Sen’s degree after the Cambodian prime minister appointed fugitive Thaksin Shinawatra as his economic advisor.

  34. 34 ray 10 November 2009 at 10:55 am

    the thaksin saga is to cover the incompetence of the current govt. the govt needs thaksin. as for cambodia losing due to close borders it will not happen. cambodia is a customer. thailand is the supplier. economics 101 right now supply is more than demand. if thailand acts up cambodia can import from china. why the hell not. i am a business man. the last thing u want ot do is piss off a paying client especially in this enviroment. also all casinos in cambodia are more or less thai owned. guess who loses if borders are closed.

  35. 35 arthurson 11 November 2009 at 1:14 pm

    I agree with Ray, Thailand will lose out more economically than Cambodia if the border is closed. Thailand is not even Cambodia’s top supplier, so look for China to benefit the most, Vietnam next most. Tourists will start traveling to Cambodia through Vietnam and Laos, and BKK will lose out on a major source of revenue, those tourists who are on their way to Angkor Wat.


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Thailand Crisis

Coup, Economic slowdown, Terror In the South... The situation is worsening in Thailand. Bumpy road like often before.

But this time, it's different.

The key to understand the present turmoil is the inevitable... succession of King Bhumibol.


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